One Trevelyan Generation or Two?

Question

I'm merging a Trevelyan line generation by generation.  The top generation now is Sir John Trevelyan-55, b. 1479, and a merge request is pending to merge John Trivilian-10 into him.

In the next generation I have four (4) John's with different last name spellings -- John Trevillian--19, John Trevelyan-56, John Trevilian-9, and John Trevilian of Nettlecombe-1, all married to Maud Hill, who has several profiles of her own.

The problem is that two of the above Johns were supposedly born 1507 and the other two born 1530.  Once the above merge takes place they will all have the same father and the same (probably) wife, but I'm suspicious that I may have two generations here.  Can anyone recommend a good source of information on this family that might help sort it out?

Comments

My Great Grandfather named Trevelyan William Born Feb 02 1820 married Mary A Trevelyan (no known surname). Son is Samuel Trevelyan Born Dec 20 1862 Died Jan 9 1953 Married to Mary Hannah Tremlett (Sept 1884 in Bedminster) died 14 Mar 1925.

 

I can find no ancestors for William Trevelyan.  Possibly a Trevillian.

 

Can anyone help?

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Bob, my best advice would be to start a profile for William Trevelyan anyway the one born Feb 2, 1820, and put every bit of information you can find on it.  Then you're giving others the best possible shot at thinking of some source of additional information!  Don't forget place names -- they're crucial.

Answer 1

There is a three volume set of 'Trevelyan papers' that might help you sort things out. (though some of the documents are in Latin) and cross check some of the dates and wives  with those from secondary sources.

part 1 has inquisitions post mortem on  John T Esq  1493, Sir John 1522 and  John T Esq  in 1547

https://archive.org/stream/trevelyanpapers01trevgoog#page/n5/mode/2up

part 11 contains 2 John Trevelyan wills dated 1550 and 1558 plus some marriage contracts

https://archive.org/details/trevelyanpapers02trevgoog

The Vic County History says  'From John Trevelyan (d. 1492) the manor descended in the direct male line through Sir John (d. 1521), John (d. 1546), (fn. 57) John (d. 1563), and John (d. 1577) to John Trevelyan (d. 1623). (fn. 58) The last named was succeeded by his grandson George Trevelyan, a minor'  http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/som/vol5/pp111-120

History and Antiquities of the County of Somerset, Vol 3 page 539 has a brief pedigree. (it's viewable on google books but has a very long url)

"This John Trevelyan  was descended from a family who had been for many ages of the most eminent rank among the gentlemen of that part of England, which dignity  he by no means tarnished 27(1448/9) and 38 Henry VI.('1459/60) he was sheriff of Cornwall, and 31 Henry VI. (1452/53)was returned one of the knights for Cornwall in the parliament  held at  Reading. 7 Henry VII(1491/2). he was created a knight of the Bath at the marriage  of Prince Arthur. He died 8 Henry  VII.(1492/3)  leaving issue by the above  mentioned  Elizabeth(Whalesborough) his wife, John his heir and successor  at Nettlecombe , Thomas, George, chaplin to King Henry VIII. and Humphrey.

John his eldest son  married Jane daughter of Sir John Halywell, knt. an eminent partizan of the House  of Lancastor  and died 13 Henry VIII.(1521/2) leaving issue  another John, who married Avice, daughter and heir of Nicholas Cockworthy, of Great Yarnscombe in the county of Devon, descendants and heirs of the noble  families of Champeron and Valletorte, and by them of Edmund earl of Cornwall. By the said Avice  he had several children, of whom John the eldest married  Maud daughter of  Giles Hill, of  Honiton esq. and was father of a fifth John Trevelyan, who married Wilmot daughter of John Harris, sergeant at law, of Hayne  in the county of Devon.

John Trevelyan, son and heir of the last-mentioned  John, married, in 1561, Urith daughter of Sir John Chichestor, of Raleigh in the county of Devon, knt. This John rebuilt the house at Nettlecombe, and 16 James I. was high-sheriff of the county.(1618/19)

He died in 1623, and was succeeded by his son and heir

John Trevelyan, the seventh of that name….." (pleased to see he was followed by a George.NB I inserted the dates in brackets using a regnal year calculator )

I noticed I haven't seen a single birth year, only deaths. I wonder where the birth years you have came from.

 

Comments

Thanks so much, Helen.  

As for the initial dates, they come from someone else's work on Geni.  For a first stab at something it's a shortcut so as to not always have to "reinvent the wheel."  But in this case, using the wheel analogy, you 've just given me the chance to replace a tricycle with a Ferrari!