Accuracy of birth information in 1923

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After a long search I found the names of my grandma's birth parents.  She was adopted in Los Angeles Ca in 1923.  I have searched every source I can think of and find to get more information on her parents. I have been told that information back then was not verified so people could make up names, where they are born and age. Is there any truth to this?  I have not been able to find either of them in the areas they were born or where my grandma was born. My grandma's birth name was June Hartman born 17 April 1923 In Los Angeles, Ca. Her birth mother was also June Maiden last name Noce she was born in Chicago, IL.  Her father was Frederick Hartman he was 41 yrs old in 1923 and born in Ohio.  I know she was born in a friends house. She was adopted by mariann Connell and George Newman. Maryann was a nurse in a hospital at the time.
asked in Genealogy Help by Jessica Wolf G2G Crew (350 points)

Fred R Hartman

 in the 1920 United States Federal Census

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Name: Fred R Hartman
Age: 38
Birth Year: abt 1882
Birthplace: Ohio
Home in 1920: Columbus Ward 4, Franklin, Ohio
Street: Livingston Avenue
House Number: 832
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Mamie Hartman
Father's Birthplace: Prussia
[Preußen] 
Mother's Birthplace: Prussia
[Preußen] 
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Proprietor
Industry: Porte Factory
Employment Field: Employer
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Household Members:
Name Age
Fred R Hartman 38
Mamie Hartman 38
Richard Hartman 5
This could be a possibility I have 2 possibles but both were married living in other states.  There is a chance it is an affair situation.  I was hoping if I found him in a state that I would find June also to confirm which was the correct one.
How old was June the mom at the birth?

Jane L Nace

 in the 1920 United States Federal Census

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Name: Jane L Nace
[Jane L Noce] 
Age: 46
Birth Year: abt 1874
Birthplace: Ohio
Home in 1920: Dayton Ward 6, Montgomery, Ohio
Street: Germantown St
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: William A Nace
Father's Birthplace: Ohio
Mother's Birthplace: Ohio
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: None
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Household Members:
Name Age
William A Nace 45
Jane L Nace 46
Maude L Lewis 18
Goldie M Nace 26
Frederick G Nace 17
Mildred Nace 16
Herman G Nace 13
Sherman Lewis 25
Louise L Lewis 2
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Why would she have her baby in California? The answer to that question could be of some help.
My grandma was named June Hartman but her name was changed when adopted to Muriel.  Her mother was also June madien name Noce.  on my grandma's birth certificate it says mother was 36 years old in April of 1923.
Ok. I will incorporate that information into my search.
I have been incorporating alternative spellings into my research. How easy is the birth document to read? Could the last name be Nace or Nale?
I get a lot of Noyes in Illinois.

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Hi Jessica...yes they could and they did. My grandmother is Myrtle Ann Mitchell. I believe she may be the daughter of who you speak of. I have found numerous names for several different people. My dad goes by the name of Edgar A. Combs but that is not his birth name. He explained that he and his brother had gotten in trouble and changed their names and social security numbers. I'm definately learning that it seems like everyone traded names.....some more than others! I'm new to Wiki but please let me know if I can help in any way.
answered by Angie Fields G2G Crew (320 points)
I find it annoying, on any other line I have worked on it wouldn't bother me so much but I have been trying to get some where on my grandma for a long time.  I actually did the ancestry dna test, still waiting on results I am hoping that will help.

Are you thinking Myrtle's parents are Frederick and Junes?
I thiink you'll want to have as much of a tree as you can for the family you think it may be.  You may find it useful to put that tree on Ancestry.com as they use your tree to find matches.  Of course you can just download the results and then to one of the places which will store them and then put the ID they give you on your profile here.  But I did get several useful connections at Ancestry but haven't had anyone contact me here yet.  But I suspect it's just a matter of time.  Good luck with your success in finding confirmation on you Grandma's parents!
People did change names--I know of two men in my tree who switched names, and one woman who claimed to be married to a man for a short while, so she could use his name instead of her previous name.

When searching for birth records, remember that it depends on location.  A large, well established city will be more likely to have kept track of births than a small, out of the way village.  Also, in addition to searching through civil records, also search through church records.  In New Mexico, for example, a researcher will have better luck (than with civil records) if their family is Catholic.  This is because the Catholic records there extend through governance by the U.S. as a state, as a territory, as a Mexican Territory and as a Province and Kingdom of Spain.  By searching Catholic records, a researcher can more easily find answers.

This might not be true in all cases, but church records are a good resource.
I have in on Ancestry.com and not one hint match anything.

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