Is this the parents

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Son name is Edward  SHOULD BE gEIGER but went y EDWARD F HABICH, birth parents Frederick Louis Geiger birth year 1858 Jo Daves Illionis  mother Augusta Conradine   Habich,she died in 1899,Edward was born in 1897-1898 after her death Edward went to live with Frederick Habich his uncle.but not sure if these are his parents and how does Fredrick and Edward mother go together  just do not see it thanks
in Genealogy Help by Betty Brown G2G4 (4.6k points)

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Edward Frank Habich - some sources as far as I can tell...

"United States Census, 1920," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJ44-Y23 : accessed 13 May 2016), Edward F Habich, Galena Ward 2, Jo Daviess, Illinois, United States; citing sheet 13B, NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 1,820,373.

"United States Census, 1930", database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHBT-1ZZ : accessed 13 May 2016), Edward F Habich, 1930.

"Illinois, County Marriages, 1810-1934," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KF2V-RQJ : accessed 13 May 2016), Edward F. Habich and Ethol Place, 15 Jul 1918; citing Jo Daviess, Illinois, United States, county offices, Illinois; FHL microfilm 1,602,652.

"Illinois, County Marriages, 1810-1934," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q292-CGLS : accessed 13 May 2016), Edward F. Habich and Ethol Place, 15 Jul 1918; citing , Jo Daviess, Illinois, United States, county offices, Illinois; FHL microfilm 1,602,649.

"United States World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918," database with images,FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K6DH-H56 : accessed 13 May 2016), Edward Frank Habich, 1917-1918; citing Jo Daviess County, Illinois, United States, NARA microfilm publication M1509 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 1,613,508.

"United States Census, 1900," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9VN-BBT : accessed 13 May 2016), Edward H Habich in household of Fredriek Habich, Grand Forks city Ward 5, Grand Forks, North Dakota, United States; citing sheet 8B, family 158, NARA microfilm publication T623 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 1,241,228.

* NOTE: Because of this record, he is documented with a birth date of July 1897 and is noted as "NEPHEW" of FREDERICK AND CATHERINE HABICH. To me, this implies that if he has a different last name, CATHERINE would be his blood relation and they had him adopt their last name to simplify things. However, upon looking at their marriage record, we find:

"Illinois, County Marriages, 1810-1934," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK92-J1D2 : accessed 13 May 2016), Frederick Habich and Catharine Riede, 08 Jan 1891; citing Jo Daviess, Illinois, United States, county offices, Illinois; FHL microfilm 1,602,651.

Her last name was Riede? There's still a possibility that she was married previously (seeking Geiger married to a Riede) or that he wasn't "really" a nephew (sometimes it's a term of respect you give a child when they're going to stay with a family friend, his "Uncle" Frederick (for example). She was around 23 years old when she married Frederick Habich, so it's possible she had a first husband.

Problem is that I find no documented marriages between a Mr. Riede and a Catherine Geiger to provide evidence of this. It seems more likely that his parents would have been either a Habich or a Riede. There is always the possibility that these were either family friends, that Catherine was previously married and was originally a Geiger (with no documentation) or there is some other explanation that I'm not thinking of right now.

by Scott Fulkerson G2G6 Pilot (898k points)
Of course, the other possibility is that his Aunt is related to the Conradine family (his mother's line). Unfortunately Conradine and Riede don't line up and neither does Conradine and Habich. Still seeking the connection.
And one more - maybe these are great-aunts or great-uncles (and they would have to be incredibly young, if this was the case...).

And I didn't quite catch that Frederick and Catherine Habich were born in Illinois but in 1900 were living in Grand Forks, North Dakota. Interesting. They were married in Daviess County, Illinois in 1891, and so must have moved there between 1891 and 1900. Frederick was a RR Laborer, so he may have been following the rails. He and his wife were born in Illinois but their parents were from Germany.

Frederick Habich's family in 1880:

"United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXJ1-JPK : accessed 13 May 2016), Fredie Habich in household of Jane Habich, Galena, Jo Daviess, Illinois, United States; citing enumeration district ED 54, sheet 274B, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 0216; FHL microfilm 1,254,216.

Mother Jane - Age 42 and widowed. All named Habich. Oldest son 19 years old in 1880. Might be an 1870 Record but I haven't located it yet.

Well, this rules out a first marriage for Catherine:

"Illinois Deaths and Stillbirths, 1916-1947," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N7MS-58N : accessed 13 May 2016), Fred Habich in entry for Katherine Habich, 24 Apr 1935; Public Board of Health, Archives, Springfield; FHL microfilm 1,754,244.

Father's name listed on the death cert as "L. Riede".

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There you go - how about this one?

"Illinois Births and Christenings, 1824-1940," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V2LX-5Y7 : accessed 13 May 2016), Frederich Louis Geiger in entry for Frederich Theodor Julius Gieger, 19 Aug 1892; Birth, citing Galena, Jo Daviess, Ill; FHL microfilm 1,602,722.

Mother's name: Conradina Habich Geiger - likely Habich is her maiden name. So Habich was her maiden name and Frederick Habich was her brother. I was thinking that Conradine was a last name - it's more likely now that it's a middle name. Augustine Conradina Habich. Possibly Germanic?

by Scott Fulkerson G2G6 Pilot (898k points)
yes Germanic,i can not put Conradina Habich in the same place as Frederick Habich but i thought all along they had to be brother and sister  just can not put them in the same family been at this for about 2 years

I think this is Augusta's (Conradine) family:

"United States Census, 1870," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6WW-WJ7 : accessed 13 May 2016), Augusta Habich in household of Augustus Habich, Illinois, United States; citing p. 159, family 1273, NARA microfilm publication M593 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 545,733.

and

"United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXJ1-68N : accessed 13 May 2016), Augusta Habich in household of August Habich, Galena, Jo Daviess, Illinois, United States; citing enumeration district ED 53, sheet 247D, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 0216; FHL microfilm 1,254,216.

The location is right - one problem - no Frederick. I'm starting to think cousin and not direct sibling...

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