Thanks Jacqueline, I have the CD as well. I am a little confused. Who do you mean by the Louisiana Catherine? They are both in Louisiana after being in Pennsylvania (not sure if both were in Philadelphia specifically). And why do you say the PA Catherine's father couldn't be Pierre. I suspect you might be bringing the daughter of Maurice and Catherine Lejeune into the equation. Or that you're reading the Kidder-Lejeune marriage entry as written-- that her mother was the widow of Maurice Olivier. I believe this was either a transcription error or an error in the writing and that it meant the woman marrying Kidder (Catherine Lejeune-Phily) was the widow of Maurice Olivier. That's the only reason I would think that where Maurice is from would make a difference.
Catherine Lejeune-PA (vs Catherine-Phily) first shows up in records when the daughter of her and Jean Burns is baptized in Pointe Coupee. This is the only child I've found for them, even with looking up all of the variants of her name and her husbands name. Interestingly, this record uses her name as Jones and that she is English. But I've seen this a time or two on Acadians who were born in the British Colonies.
BONN, Susanne (Jean & Catherine Jones, English) bt. 19 Apr 1772, bn. age 9 months, spo. Frederic Leonard & Susanne Roy (PCP-2, part 2, 125a also PCP-4, 86)
After that, she is only really mentioned in her grandchildren's baptisms. I have not found the above mentioned Susanne Burns marriage record to Pierre Fruge, but they did have children. One thing to note is that the brother of Pierre Fruge, Jean Fruge was a witness at Catherine Lejeune-Phily's marriage to Kidder.
Of the children of Susanne Burns and Pierre Fruge a couple do attempt to give the grandparents names:
*FRUGE, Alexis (Pierre & Susan BURNS - residents of this parish) b. 23 Sept. 1801, bt. 21 Nov. 1801 Pats: Pierre FRUGE & Catherine DESMOULINS; Mats: unknown; Spons: Joseph FRUGE & Marie DESMOULINS. Fr. Louis BUHOT (Opel. Ch.: v.1-A, p.266)
*FRUGE, Catherine (Pierre & Susan BURNS - inhabitants of this Post) bt. 27 May 1804 at age 2 mths. Spons: Augustin FRUGE & Marguerite OLIVIER. Fr. Louis BUHOT (Opel. Ch.: v.1-B, p.327)
Of note here is that the sponsor in the second one is the daughter of Maurice Olivier and Catherine Lejeune-Phily.
*FRUGE, Augustin (Augustin [marginal note corrects this to Pierre] & Suzanne BONS [perhaps BURNS]) bt. Sunday, 9 June 1799 Pats: Pierre FRUGER & Catherine MOULINS [probably DUMOULINS]; Mats: John BONS [BURNS] & Catherine LEJEUNE; Spons: Arnaud ROMARD & Sidonie DE ARBONNE [DARBONNE]. Fr. Pedro de ZAMORA (Opel. Ch.: v.1-A, p.214)
In 2 other children's cases, one of the sponsors was either Catherine Young or Catherine Lejeune. Most likely the grandmother, I'd guess.
There were several marriages between the children of either Pierre Fruge's siblings (children of Pierre Fruge & Catherine DuMoulin) and the children of Maurice Olivier and Catherine Lejeune.---there either aren't marriage records for them on SWLR CD or the parents aren't given, but the baptism records of the children show this.
*FRUGE, Denise [record has Dyonisia] (Nicolas & Marianne OLIVIER) bt. Sunday, 27 May 1798 Pats: Pierre FRUGER & Catherine DUMOULIN; Mats: Maurice OLIVIER & Catherine LEJEUNE; Spons: Augustin FRUGER & Marie Louise LACASSE. Fr. Pedro de ZAMORA (Opel. Ch.: v.1-A, p.199)
*FRUGE, Emelie (Jean FRUGER & Elanor OLIVIER) b. 28 Dec. 1797, bt. Sunday, 27 May 1798 supplied ceremony for baptism which was previously performed at home. Pats: Pierre FRUGER & Catherine DUMOULIN; Mats: Maurice OLIVIER & Catherine LEJEUNE; Spons: Joseph OLIVIER & Celeste WAIBLE. Fr. Pedro de ZAMORA (Opel. Ch.: v.1-A, p.198)
*FRUGE, Selesie (Jean FRUGER & Eleonor OLIVIER) bt. Sunday, 12 April 1800 Pats: Pierre FRUGER & Catherine MOULIN [probably DUMOULIN); Mats: Maurice OLIVIER & Catherine LEJEUNE; Spons: Jean LACASE & Lucie LACASE. Fr. Pedro de ZAMORA (Opel. Ch.: v.1-A, p.227)
*FRUGE, Caroline (Jean & Eleonore OLIVIER - residents of this parish) bt. 18 July 1802 at age 7 mths. Pats: Pierre FRUGE & Catherine DUMOULIN; Mats: Maurice OLIVIER & Catherine LEJEUNE; Spons: Francois FRUGE & Eleonore GREGSON. Fr. Louis BUHOT (Opel. Ch.: v.1-A, p.283)
You get the idea...
This record shows that Maurice Olivier had died by 1809.
HEBERT, Anne Margueritte - living in this parish, widow of Jean Pierre BAUDIN (dec. Joseph HEBERT & dec. Jeane LAFORET) m. 2 Oct. 1809 Joseph OLIVIER - originally from and inhabitant of this parish (dec. Maurice & Catherine LEJEUNE) Wits: Jean FRUGE, Louis HEBERT. Fr. Louis BUHOT (Opel. Ch.: v.1-A, p.190)
There are many other records that include the Oliviers and in-laws, etc. of Catherine Lejeune-PA
I can find only one of the baptism records for the children of Maurice and Catherine Lejeune-Phily. It does show that this child was born about 8 years after the child of Jean Burns and Catherine Lejeune-PA.
OLIVIER, Catherine (Maurice & Catherine LEJEUNE) bt. 30 May 1780 at age 2 yrs. & 8 days Spons: Jean Baptiste GUILLORY & Catherine CARRIERE - represented by Marianne Montchervaux CLERMONT. Fr. L.M. GRUMEAU (Opel. Ch.: v.1-A, p.35)
There are no other records that would support there being two Catherine Lejeunes in the area at the same time and unfortunately no marriage record for Olivier Lejeune or for Fruge Burns which might indicate either parentage or whether parents are deceased. There's also no independent burial records for the parties.
It's obvious the families were intertwined. And the fact that this entire question began when someone added new spouses to Lejeune-69 and I questioned if it was the same person.