is the surname tims also timms?

Question

This is my 6th grandfather from England needed input please?

John Tims 1697–  

Birth ABT 1697 • Shotteswell, Warwickshire, England

 

His son was Richard Tims

Answer 1

surnamedb.com does not have a Tim surname, but they do have Timbs, Tims, Timms and so on, as indicated in the following: 

Last name: Timms

Recorded in several spellings including Timbs, Tims, Timms, Timmes, Tymms, Tyms, and Timson, this unusual and interesting surname is a medieval patronymic. It derives from the pre 7th Century personal name Tima or Timmo, short nickname forms of the early given name Dietmar. This translates as "Famous people" from the elements "theudo-meri". Early Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, and Norse baptismal names during the period of history known as The Dark Ages, from the 5th to the 12th century a.d., were often compounds whose elements were associated with the gods of Fire, Water and War. This name is a compound but seems to have a gentler background. The personal name Timothy of Greek origins and meaning "to honour god" provided nameholders as Timofeev in Russia and Tyma in Poland, but in the British Isles did not to have come into general use until after the Reformation in 1535. This would normally have made it much too late to become a surname as this surname dates from two centuries earlier (see below). Other surviving recordings include Richard Tyms, in the register of students at Oxford University in 1565, the christening of James Timms, the son of John and Priscilla Timms, on April 4th 1699, at St. Sepulchre Church, in the city of London, and the marriage of Edward Timbs and Henrietta Maria Smith at St. Antholins church, also in the city of London on July 1st 1752. The first known recording of the family name may be that of William Tymmes. This was dated 1332, in the Subsidy Tax rolls of the county of Warwickshire, during the reign of King Edward 111rd of England, 1327 - 1377. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.

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Answer 2

The surname should be that which is given in the record that is his earliet source reference, which isusually the christening. The spelling of that suname will undoubtedly be the interpretation of the cleric recording the event and may change as the generations develop and then into some consistency. Variations in the surname should be noted in the profiles so that the evolution of the accepted surname is visible.

Answer 3

There are at least 400 with Tim surname in familysearch.org . I stopped looking after the 20th page. Here's the first page.

Miles Tim
Boarder
United States Census, 1940
birth:    1907    Kansas
residence:    1940    Ohio Township, Morris, Kansas, United States    
other:    C M Haun, Mary Haun, Lola Haun, Marjorie Haun        

Tom Tim
Boarder
United States Census, 1940
birth:    1891    China
residence:    1940    Kemmerer, Election District 1, Lincoln, Wyoming, United States            

H C Tim
Head
United States Census, 1940
birth:    1905    Mississippi
residence:    1940    Cross City, Election Precinct 4, Dixie, Florida, United States    
spouse:    Lilly Tim
children:    Walter Tim, Dolly May Tim, Pearly May Tim, Louise Tim, Geneva Tim, Junior Tim
other:    Willie D Bush        

Lilly Tim
Wife
United States Census, 1940
birth:    1910    Florida
residence:    1940    Cross City, Election Precinct 4, Dixie, Florida, United States    
spouse:    H C Tim
children:    Walter Tim, Dolly May Tim, Pearly May Tim, Louise Tim, Geneva Tim, Junior Tim
other:    Willie D Bush        

Walter Tim
Son
United States Census, 1940
birth:    1923    Mississippi
residence:    1940    Cross City, Election Precinct 4, Dixie, Florida, United States    
father:    H C Tim
mother:    Lilly Tim
other:    Dolly May Tim, Pearly May Tim, Louise Tim, Geneva Tim, Junior Tim, Willie D Bush        

Dolly May Tim
Daughter
United States Census, 1940
birth:    1926    Mississippi
residence:    1940    Cross City, Election Precinct 4, Dixie, Florida, United States    
father:    H C Tim
mother:    Lilly Tim
other:    Walter Tim, Pearly May Tim, Louise Tim, Geneva Tim, Junior Tim, Willie D Bush        

Pearly May Tim
Daughter
United States Census, 1940
birth:    1928    Mississippi
residence:    1940    Cross City, Election Precinct 4, Dixie, Florida, United States    
father:    H C Tim
mother:    Lilly Tim
other:    Walter Tim, Dolly May Tim, Louise Tim, Geneva Tim, Junior Tim, Willie D Bush        

Louise Tim
Daughter
United States Census, 1940
birth:    1929    Mississippi
residence:    1940    Cross City, Election Precinct 4, Dixie, Florida, United States    
father:    H C Tim
mother:    Lilly Tim
other:    Walter Tim, Dolly May Tim, Pearly May Tim, Geneva Tim, Junior Tim, Willie D Bush        

Geneva Tim
Daughter
United States Census, 1940
birth:    1934    Florida
residence:    1940    Cross City, Election Precinct 4, Dixie, Florida, United States    
father:    H C Tim
mother:    Lilly Tim
other:    Walter Tim, Dolly May Tim, Pearly May Tim, Louise Tim, Junior Tim, Willie D Bush        

Junior Tim
Son
United States Census, 1940
birth:    1936    Florida
residence:    1940    Cross City, Election Precinct 4, Dixie, Florida, United States    
father:    H C Tim
mother:    Lilly Tim
other:    Walter Tim, Dolly May Tim, Pearly May Tim, Louise Tim, Geneva Tim, Willie D Bush        

Thomas Tim
Head
United States Census, 1940
birth:    1900    Florida
residence:    1940    Ward 2, Pensacola, Election Precinct 29, Escambia, Florida, United States    
spouse:    Eliza Tim
children:    Louise Tim, Charles O Tim, Eloise Tim, Gloria J Tim
other:    Arilla Glenn        

Eliza Tim
Wife
United States Census, 1940
birth:    1910    Alabama
residence:    1940    Ward 2, Pensacola, Election Precinct 29, Escambia, Florida, United States    
spouse:    Thomas Tim
children:    Louise Tim, Charles O Tim, Eloise Tim, Gloria J Tim
other:    Arilla Glenn        

Louise Tim
Daughter
United States Census, 1940
birth:    1934    Florida
residence:    1940    Ward 2, Pensacola, Election Precinct 29, Escambia, Florida, United States    
father:    Thomas Tim
mother:    Eliza Tim
other:    Charles O Tim, Eloise Tim, Gloria J Tim, Arilla Glenn        

Charles O Tim
Son
United States Census, 1940
birth:    1936    Florida
residence:    1940    Ward 2, Pensacola, Election Precinct 29, Escambia, Florida, United States    
father:    Thomas Tim
mother:    Eliza Tim
other:    Louise Tim, Eloise Tim, Gloria J Tim, Arilla Glenn        

Eloise Tim
Daughter
United States Census, 1940
birth:    1937    Florida
residence:    1940    Ward 2, Pensacola, Election Precinct 29, Escambia, Florida, United States    
father:    Thomas Tim
mother:    Eliza Tim
other:    Louise Tim, Charles O Tim, Gloria J Tim, Arilla Glenn        

Gloria J Tim
Daughter
United States Census, 1940
birth:    1940    Florida
residence:    1940    Ward 2, Pensacola, Election Precinct 29, Escambia, Florida, United States    
father:    Thomas Tim
mother:    Eliza Tim
other:    Louise Tim, Charles O Tim, Eloise Tim, Arilla Glenn        

Robert Tim
Head
United States Census, 1940
birth:    1903    Georgia
residence:    1940    Election Precinct 3, Hamilton, Florida, United States    
spouse:    Jessie Tim
child:    Frank H Tim
other:    Jammie L Johnson        

Jessie Tim
Wife
United States Census, 1940
birth:    1904    Florida
residence:    1940    Election Precinct 3, Hamilton, Florida, United States    
spouse:    Robert Tim
child:    Frank H Tim
other:    Jammie L Johnson        

Frank H Tim
Son
United States Census, 1940
birth:    1926    Florida
residence:    1940    Election Precinct 3, Hamilton, Florida, United States    
father:    Robert Tim
mother:    Jessie Tim
other:    Jammie L Johnson        

Joe Tim
Head
United States Census, 1940
birth:    1891    Georgia
residence:    1940    Election Precinct 58, Hillsborough, Florida, United States    
spouse:    Emma Tim

Comments

The Tim surname goes back to at least 1585-1598 in England.

Willmus Tim
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:    1 August 1585    Saint Mary and All Saints, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England
residence:        Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England    
father:    Tho. Tim        

Zacharias Tim*
England, Derbyshire, Church of England Parish Registers, 1537-1918
christening:    9 August 1598    Repton, Repton, Derbyshire, England    
father:    Robti Tim*