Hoping to collaborate w/others on pre-1500 Wales?

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I have to wait a few days to be allowed pre-1500 certification, but am so interested to discover how many ancestors were from Wales going back to the 1000's. I'm also confused about the meaning of different surnames, sometimes appearing to be given names that then become surnames for their children, with "ap" appearing in front of it. This is coming from familysearch.org, and some of the names have been repeated even though it's obvious it's the same person. So hopefully when my DNA results come back and if I can figure some more of this out, I can communicate more with some of you to share what I have and learn what you may have!

I always thought my Grandfather, Ray Lemuel Quinn, was of strictly Irish descent, but am discovering all this new, fun stuff with a bunch of "Sir" this-&-that, "Lady" this-&-that, and even some knights thrown in, and it's from Wales way back when. My Grandpa Quinn was a Prince of a man, though, so it doesn't surprise me. I hope to go back even further after the DNA results and maybe meet some of you, my very, very distant cousins out there.

The most riddling thing of all is that my husband's great-great-grandfather was a Thomas from Wales, and so far I've found several Thomas many-X-great-grandmothers of my own, so my husband & I possibly share an ancestor or two. :)

Blessings to all here. I'm looking forward to this adventure and learning experience.

~ Dale Lynn Thomas
WikiTree profile: Ray Quinn
in The Tree House by Day Thomas G2G6 (6.9k points)

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Dale, Welcome to Wikitree.  Wales prior to 1500 is an interesting area to research.  There are many early Welsh chronicles that take Welsh history back to beyond written documents. On Wikitree we have the Cymru Project.  You can read about it HERE

Names weren't standardized until a law passed in 1535, so naming patterns are really important for the earlier Welsh. Also, many of the early Welsh were referred to by different names by different chroniclers, so it can be difficult to determine if there are duplicates.  We use naming conventions that use ap, ab, ferch and gwraig in their names, which helps tell them apart. When you get your pre-1500 certification, think about joining the Cymru Project, but even if you don't join, please use the naming conventions that that been set up.  Thanks..

by Vic Watt G2G6 Pilot (366k points)

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