is this the same person? Ann Stuart & Ann Steward

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I am working on the profile of Thomas Pedder. I see on the census that he was firstly married to an Ann and then secondly to a Sarah. As i was in the middle of doing the residence and occupation for him i only had a brief look to see who Ann was, and found the reference for her was Ann Stuart. I already had Sarah entered as his wife via my ancestry gedcom at this time. So carrying on I get to add Ann into the picture. On the 1841 & 1851 England census they show her as being either the same age (b 1815/16) or 2 years older (b 1817/18) than Thomas, which ties in nicely with the marriage date of 1838. The marriage reference states her father is James Stuart.  So I need a new profile for Ann and take the following entry in the search results for the christening of Ann Steward, christened 1816 (same place of birth as Ann Stuart) and also fathers name is James. I add the christening source to start Ann's sources off and make the profile. Only when I go to add the wiki ID to Thomas's biography do I realise the surnames are spelled differently and she is the only Ann that I could find born within the date range and location.

Name Ann Parkins Steward
Gender Female
Christening Date 20 Mar 1816
Christening Place Flamstead, Hertford, England
Father's Name James Steward
Mother's Name Ann  

 

 

Name Thomas Pedder
Spouse's Name Ann Stuart
Event Date 12 Oct 1838
Event Place Flamstead, Hertford, England
Father's Name Joseph Pedder
Spouse's Father's Name James Stuart

To add madness to mayhem, Thomas had 7 children by Ann, 3 by Sarah and took on at least 4 more of Sarah's children from her previous marriage. (Still counting those) Sarah also was a challenge, she was born Sarah, married first time using her nickname Sally and then reverted back to Sarah to marry Thomas!

So opinions please, are these the same person and if so which surname to use for LNAB, or have i just lost the plot today?

[[Pedder-51|Thomas Pedder]]  [[Steward-1784|Ann Steward]]

Thanks

Wendy 

WikiTree profile: Thomas Pedder
in Genealogy Help by Wendy Sullivan G2G6 Pilot (145k points)
Tricky.  There was a Stuart family from Scotland in St Albans.

1841 census has a James and Ann Steward farming Hill End at the western side of Hemel Hempstead.  String of grown-up kids still at home.  Baptisms in the Hemel Hempstead register.

No obvious reason why they'd have gone to Flamstead for a christening, though they could have.  The register should be a printed form showing address and occupation, which should settle it.  There were other Stewards in the area.

None of which proves anything.  If Ann bapt 1816 was from Hill End then it looks like just coincidence that she was married in the same church, if that's her.

And farmers' daughters didn't usually marry labourers.
Certainly puts another tong in the fire. Flamstead was a suburb of Hemel Hempstead and often was just recorded as Hemel Hempstead . I have many ancestors from there and half have flamstead and other half just Hemel Hempstead,

Thank you for your input, that's valuable information :)
Actually the marriage certificate should also have the father's occupation, which would help to make the link with the baptism.

I have a somewhat similar situation with Anne Stewart born March 31, 1725 at Edgarton, Martha's Vineyard, Dukes, MA. I have seen her first name as Anna and her last name as Stuart. 

surnamedb.com has info on the origin of the surname which reads in part,

"The Scottish royal family surname of Stuart or Stewart, the spellings have and continue to vary over the centuries, originated from their holding the hereditary office of High Steward over several centuries from about 1157."

Read more: http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Stewart#ixzz4B5HL1W7F

 

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