Question / Comment about William Wilcoxson's father.

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Wilcoxson-12 (William of Derbyshire, b. 1601) states that his father is Wilcoxson-86 (John of Hertfordshire, b. 1596) which would make home only 5. This can't be possible.

I have a family historical outline that has been passed on and was last edited in 2000. It shows that William's father is actually William Wilcoxson, b. 1560 in Derbyshire. He married Anne Howdische, Feb 8, 1575. This would better match the birth of William and they are also from Derbyshire.

Before I make any changes to this line, I would like some opinions. Also, I am not sure how to remove John from my line, but I'm sure he exists, he just isn't the correct father to William.

Thank you for any suggestions.
WikiTree profile: William Wilcockson
in Requests for Project Volunteers by Heather Remacle G2G1 (1.3k points)
I agree completely with you that his father appears much too young. The mother on his profile is too young as well, and their marriage in 1617 - if accurate - make it sound like they are not his parents.

Updated: In looking at his profile, Anderson quotes a source suggesting (not proving) that he may be the son of William Wilcockson of Biggin-by-Hulland, Derbyshire. Does that seem like the same person your outline suggests?

You  may want to add the PGM tag to this question to get input from more people that are familiar with those that came to New England in that timeframe.
Yes, actually, the outline states that his father is likely from the town of Biggin.This information was added to the outline from Abner Wilcox and Lucy Eliza Hart Wilcox. (unsure of date they added this information) They also say our William was a linen weaver and since Biggin was an area where flax was grown and woven into cloth, there is credibility to believe that he is the William Wilcoxson b. abt 1560 in Derbyshire and he had a son Wiliam Wilcoxson b. 1601 also in Biggin, Derbyshire.

There is also a note that in 1639, the passengers of the Planter embarked with a blanket certificate from the minister of St. Albans, Hertfordshire. This might be why John was originally connected since he was born in Hertfordshire.

I'll look to see how to add the PGM tag. Thank you so much for your input and interest.

1 Answer

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Considering Anderson is basically what we go by unless there are newer, quality sources of such information, I think a Disputed Origins section should be added to his profile. In this section you could show the WikiTree ID's and names of the unlikely (current) parents, as well as list the person Anderson suggests may be his father. I looked, and there appear to be no profiles already on WikiTree for William from Biggin-by-Hulland; if you have enough information you could create the profile, and link him as the "uncertain" father, including the Great Migration as one source of the info.

After the disputed origins section is created with the current names, the information will be available to relink them in the unlikely event that better, newer sources show up.

I believe either a leader or one of the PM's of his profile will need to disconnect his parents though.
by S Willson G2G6 Pilot (228k points)

Thank you very much!

Yes, I believe I do have enough information to begin a profile for him. I'll try to get that completed this week.

I've created to help possibly link William of Derbyshire with his son, William Wilcoxson also of Derbyshire. I was not able to add information to Wilcoxson-12 to link Wilcoxson-335 as a disputed father. Any help will be appreciated and I can add trusted members to this profile so edits can be made easier, since I am still very new to wikitree.

I also have that his wife was Anne Howdische, but I don't have birth/death dates (yet).

This is an interesting 'read' which gave me the confidence to discuss changes with William's parents. It's from, Thomas Wilcox, Descendants of William Wilcoxson of Derbyshire, England and Stratford Connecticut

I've completed the merges of William; we now have to resolve his wife/wives. He's supposed to be married to a Margaret Harvey; none of his Margaret wives have that surname. Where did Birdseye come from?

I totally agree that Margret is a Harvey not a Birdseye. There may have been some confusion in other family tree sites and others just adopted her as the wife... not sure. Even I have some notes about Birdseye, just never proven to connect Margret.

...I did some digging... this site lists Margret Birdseye as his wife.

I was just chatting to someone about Margaret being a Harvey and the two families lived side by side in Derbyshire and could possibly be the same families in Wales with the named spelled as Hervie. I just don't have complete information and haven't made a solid connection yet from Wales to Derbyshire. 

Also, there was a Birdseye that lived in Stratford, listed as a neighbor, at the time. Phoebe (one of William and Margret's daughters) married John Birdseye in Stratford, 1669. So the Birdseye family seemed to be around, just not directly to Margret. I haven't checked to see if Wikitree has profiles yet on all of William's children, but I'll eventually look into them.

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