Is John Dudley of Guilford Conn. (who died 1690) the John Dudley born in Boston?

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The profile for John Dudley (died 1690, Guilford, Connecticut) says that he is son of Samuel Dudley and Mary Winthrop.  Is there evidence one way or the other that John Dudley of Guilford, Connecticut, is the son of Samuel Dudley and Mary Winthrop?  The present profile is: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Dudley-233
WikiTree profile: John Dudley
in Genealogy Help by Kenneth Kinman G2G6 Mach 6 (67.7k points)
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From the French Family Association: http://www.frenchfamilyassoc.com/FFA/CHARTS/Chart009/Gen2.htm  Doesn't sound like they think so.

2.8 Martha French, b. 6 Aug 1654 in Guilford, New Haven Co., CT, m. John Dudley on 11 Feb 1673 in Guilford, New Haven Co., CT [13]. Martha and John Dudley inherited 20 acres of land from her father Thomas French just before his death in 1673. Martha d. in 1690 and John Dudley d. also in 1690 [18]. John Dudley had been pressed on board a British man-of-war ship in London. He escaped and came to Boston and then Guilford in 1673.

In addition The Early New England Families Project (Link at American Ancestors) Says he died young at Salisbury, after his brother Thomas' will was written, about 1655

 

by Anne B G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
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Thanks Anne,

      I suspect that these are indeed two different men, but unfortunately  the "man-of-war ship" story is just family tradition.  The Early New England Families Project wouldn't give me access with just a guest account, so not sure if they have any hard proof that John (son of Samuel Dudley) died relatively young in Massachusetts.  

I found it very interesting that John of Guilford Connecticut was called "Deadly" in the early records and only changed to Dudley later.  Anyway, the following seems to sum it up:  

Records indicate that John Dudley lived with his grandfather, Gov. Dudley, as a young boy and later disappeared. Some say he died (no proof of this), but others say he ran away and later appeared in Guilford with old friends of his grandfather's, who had died by then. There are no ship records showing the arrival of an adult who could have been this John Dudley. However, another story says that this John Dudley had been impressed to serve on a ship in England and escaped years later in Boston. He then made his way to Guilford, where he worked for Thomas French, later marrying Thomas' daughter, Martha. His name, in early Guilford records, was spelled "Deadly", but later "Dudley." John is the pivotal point for claiming lineage with the Dudley and Winthrop lines. I have included him in the Dudley and Winthorp lineage, but keep in mind, there is no proof.  

Source:   https://www.geni.com/people/John-Dudley/6000000006444334364   

 

Still no progress on this problem.  But I decided to categorize his parents as uncertain (they certainly are not confident).
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Per Dean Dudley's "The Dudley Family" Vol. I, pg. 277, John the son of Rev. Samuel:

"John, bapt. at Boston, June 28, 1635; d. young"

This is not the John of Guilford. There are numerous family trees out there trying to make the connection to Samuel, but this is not correct.
by Robert Stevens G2G Crew (870 points)

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