I need help untangling Isaac Tesseneer b.1843,NC & Joseph Tesseneer b1843,NC

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In researching my husbands family I have hit a brick wall on his great great grandfather,Joseph Tesseneer. I have found several records that indicate they are the same person. However,I have also found seperate 1880 census records out of Rutherford Co,NC for Joseph & Elizabeth Tesseneer & children and Isaac & Adaline Tesseneer & children. I also have seperate wedding info for the two couples. Can anybody help me figure this out?
in Genealogy Help by R. Howard G2G5 (5.1k points)
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Because it wasn't complicated enough already I found another Joseph

Jos Tessennier

 in the North Carolina, Index to Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868

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    Name: Jos Tessennier
    Gender: Male
    Spouse: Cindrilla Brooks
    Spouse Gender: Female
    Bond Date: 19 Nov 1846
    Bond #: 000136327
    Level Info: North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868
    ImageNum: 000984
    County: Rutherford
    Record #: 01 301
    Bondsman: Drury Green
    Witness: G W Logan, CL

    Here it says his name is Joel and not Joseph.

    Joel Tusenneer

     in the 1850 United States Federal Census

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    Name: Joel Tusenneer
    [Joel Tesseneer
    [Joel Tusenneer Teseniar
    [Joe "Joseph" Tusenneer
    Age: 21
    Birth Year: abt 1829
    Birthplace: North Carolina
    Home in 1850: Sandy Run, Rutherford, North Carolina, USA
    Gender: Male
    Family Number: 1318
    Household Members:
    Name Age
    Joel Tusenneer 21
    Cyndavilla Tusenneer 23
    Benjamin Tusenneer 3
    Margarett Tusenneer 2
    Permelia Tusenneer 0

    Do you know who Amanda Tesseneer is?

    Isaac Tesenier

     in the 1870 United States Federal Census

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    Name: Isaac Tesenier
    Age in 1870: 22
    Birth Year: abt 1848
    Birthplace: North Carolina
    Home in 1870: District 4, Claiborne, Tennessee
    Race: White
    Gender: Male
    Post Office: Cumberland Gap
    Value of real estate: View image
    Household Members:
    Name Age
    Isaac Tesenier 22
    Adaline Tesenier 21
    Martha E Tesenier 3
    Melvina Tesenier 1
    Amanda Tesenier 20

    Ok here is a Nuckles (yes the data on the actual census says Nuckles) listed with Isaac in 1850

    Isaac Tusenneer

     in the 1850 United States Federal Census

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    Name: Isaac Tusenneer
    [Isaac Tusenneer Teseniar
    [Isaac Tessenary
    Age: 7
    Birth Year: abt 1843
    Birthplace: North Carolina
    Home in 1850: Sandy Run, Rutherford, North Carolina, USA
    Gender: Male
    Family Number: 1317
    Household Members:
    Name Age
    William Tusenneer 36
    Roda Tusenneer 30
    Nuckles Tusenneer 13
    Nancy Tusenneer 11
    William Tusenneer 9
    Isaac Tusenneer 7
    Lucy Tusenneer 3
    Alfred Tusenneer 1
    Perhaps Nuckles is Joseph?
    Thanks so much for all yalls help! "Nuckles" is actually a nickname for Nicholas. Ive actually got back to Nicholas Tesseneer Sr b. abt 1734 in Gemany. His first wife was Anna Catherine,no maiden name, died soon after arrival in America 1771. Second wife Margaret Henrietta Felbach(Philbeck). To make matters more complicated,Elizabeth Pritchard Tesseneer is the great grandaughter of Nicholas Sr & Isaac is his great grandson. Isaacs parents are William Thomas Tesseneer & Rhoda Green. If Joseph & Isaacs parents are William Thomas & Rhoda they would be brothers. I cant find them on a census together. I have found several census records for William Thomas & Rhoda & cant find Joseph. I can account for all children on the records,none of them are him. Tesseneers are a hard bunch to trace! I think someone has previously merged them somewhere as I find records for Joseph Clephus Isaac Tesseneer. Any suggestions?

    Here is marriage info

    Joel Joseph is the son of Nicholas Tesseneer Jr & Elizabeth Lucy Lawson. They had 12+ children and all their children passed on the same names. Gets very confusing. Thank you so much for all info!

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    Joseph Clophus Tesseneer

     in the North Carolina, Death Certificates, 1909-1976

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      Name: Joseph Clophus Tesseneer
      Gender: Male
      Race: White
      Age: 89
      Birth Date: abt 1844
      Birth Place: , North Carolina, United States
      Death Date: 18 Sep 1933
      Death Place: Shelby, Cleveland, North Carolina, USA
      Spouse: Elizabeth Tesseneer
      Father: Tom Tesseneer
      Mother: Rodie Green
        Search for Joseph Clophus Tesseneer in North Carolina Wills & Probates collection
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      Isaac Tessanier

       in the Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002

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        Name: Isaac Tessanier
        Gender: Male
        Marriage Date: 5 Apr 1866
        Marriage Place: Greene, Tennessee, USA
        Spouse: Adaline Weaver

        Isaac is in Greenville, South Carolina in 1909

        Isaac Tessenner

         in the U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995

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          Name: Isaac Tessenner
          Gender: Male
          Spouse: Adeline Tessenner
          Publication Title: Greenville, South Carolina, City Directory, 1909
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          These are duplicate marriage records from different North Carolina agencies.

          Are Isaac and Joseph related.???
          by Wayne Morgan G2G6 Pilot (917k points)
          I'm still looking for a relationship Wayne.

          Betty
          I was wondering if you ever found the relationship between Joseph & Isaac Tesseneer? Ive still had no luck!!

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