I need help untangling Isaac Tesseneer b.1843,NC & Joseph Tesseneer b1843,NC

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In researching my husbands family I have hit a brick wall on his great great grandfather,Joseph Tesseneer. I have found several records that indicate they are the same person. However,I have also found seperate 1880 census records out of Rutherford Co,NC for Joseph & Elizabeth Tesseneer & children and Isaac & Adaline Tesseneer & children. I also have seperate wedding info for the two couples. Can anybody help me figure this out?

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Because it wasn't complicated enough already I found another Joseph

Jos Tessennier

 in the North Carolina, Index to Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868

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Name:	Jos Tessennier
Gender:	Male
Spouse:	Cindrilla Brooks
Spouse Gender:	Female
Bond Date:	19 Nov 1846
Bond #:	000136327
Level Info:	North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868
ImageNum:	000984
County:	Rutherford
Record #:	01 301
Bondsman:	Drury Green
Witness:	G W Logan, CL

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Here it says his name is Joel and not Joseph.

Joel Tusenneer

 in the 1850 United States Federal Census

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Name:	Joel Tusenneer [Joel Tesseneer]  [Joel Tusenneer Teseniar]  [Joe "Joseph" Tusenneer]
Age:	21
Birth Year:	abt 1829
Birthplace:	North Carolina
Home in 1850:	Sandy Run, Rutherford, North Carolina, USA
Gender:	Male
Family Number:	1318
Household Members:	Name Age Joel Tusenneer 21 Cyndavilla Tusenneer 23 Benjamin Tusenneer 3 Margarett Tusenneer 2 Permelia Tusenneer 0

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Do you know who Amanda Tesseneer is?

Isaac Tesenier

 in the 1870 United States Federal Census

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Name:	Isaac Tesenier
Age in 1870:	22
Birth Year:	abt 1848
Birthplace:	North Carolina
Home in 1870:	District 4, Claiborne, Tennessee
Race:	White
Gender:	Male
Post Office:	Cumberland Gap
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Household Members:	Name Age Isaac Tesenier 22 Adaline Tesenier 21 Martha E Tesenier 3 Melvina Tesenier 1 Amanda Tesenier 20

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Ok here is a Nuckles (yes the data on the actual census says Nuckles) listed with Isaac in 1850

Isaac Tusenneer

 in the 1850 United States Federal Census

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Name:	Isaac Tusenneer [Isaac Tusenneer Teseniar]  [Isaac Tessenary]
Age:	7
Birth Year:	abt 1843
Birthplace:	North Carolina
Home in 1850:	Sandy Run, Rutherford, North Carolina, USA
Gender:	Male
Family Number:	1317
Household Members:	Name Age William Tusenneer 36 Roda Tusenneer 30 Nuckles Tusenneer 13 Nancy Tusenneer 11 William Tusenneer 9 Isaac Tusenneer 7 Lucy Tusenneer 3 Alfred Tusenneer 1

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Perhaps Nuckles is Joseph?

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Thanks so much for all yalls help! "Nuckles" is actually a nickname for Nicholas. Ive actually got back to Nicholas Tesseneer Sr b. abt 1734 in Gemany. His first wife was Anna Catherine,no maiden name, died soon after arrival in America 1771. Second wife Margaret Henrietta Felbach(Philbeck). To make matters more complicated,Elizabeth Pritchard Tesseneer is the great grandaughter of Nicholas Sr & Isaac is his great grandson. Isaacs parents are William Thomas Tesseneer & Rhoda Green. If Joseph & Isaacs parents are William Thomas & Rhoda they would be brothers. I cant find them on a census together. I have found several census records for William Thomas & Rhoda & cant find Joseph. I can account for all children on the records,none of them are him. Tesseneers are a hard bunch to trace! I think someone has previously merged them somewhere as I find records for Joseph Clephus Isaac Tesseneer. Any suggestions?

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Here is marriage info

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Joel Joseph is the son of Nicholas Tesseneer Jr & Elizabeth Lucy Lawson. They had 12+ children and all their children passed on the same names. Gets very confusing. Thank you so much for all info!

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Joseph Clophus Tesseneer

 in the North Carolina, Death Certificates, 1909-1976

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Name:	Joseph Clophus Tesseneer
Gender:	Male
Race:	White
Age:	89
Birth Date:	abt 1844
Birth Place:	, North Carolina, United States
Death Date:	18 Sep 1933
Death Place:	Shelby, Cleveland, North Carolina, USA
Spouse:	Elizabeth Tesseneer
Father:	Tom Tesseneer
Mother:	Rodie Green
	Search for Joseph Clophus Tesseneer in North Carolina Wills & Probates collection

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Isaac Tessanier

 in the Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002

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Name:	Isaac Tessanier
Gender:	Male
Marriage Date:	5 Apr 1866
Marriage Place:	Greene, Tennessee, USA
Spouse:	Adaline Weaver

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Isaac is in Greenville, South Carolina in 1909

Isaac Tessenner

 in the U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995

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Name:	Isaac Tessenner
Gender:	Male
Spouse:	Adeline Tessenner
Publication Title:	Greenville, South Carolina, City Directory, 1909

Answer 2

These are duplicate marriage records from different North Carolina agencies.

Are Isaac and Joseph related.???

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I'm still looking for a relationship Wayne.

Betty

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I was wondering if you ever found the relationship between Joseph & Isaac Tesseneer? Ive still had no luck!!