Cd RAVEN (Gilkes) be a GIVEN Jewish/Romany FIRST name, c.1780 - found on m.c. dated1839/father of bridegroom.

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No evidence of a RAVEN Gilkes has been turned up on the usual searches thru Ancestry but he appears as the father of the bridegroom on a marriage certificate dtd 1839, assumed dob 1780s/1790s.Marriage took place in London, England.Could this be a Romany or Jewish FIRST name? and if so, how might I gain further knowledge.He was noted as a wheelwright.His son a coachbuilder,
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It was in London in 1344. 

Last name: Raven

This interesting name is of early medieval English origin, and developed from a nickname for a thievish or dark-haired person, from the Middle English "raven", a development of the Old English pre 7th Century "hraefn". In some cases it may be from a personal name derived from this element, taken over into Middle English from the Old Norse byname "Hrafn"; an example of this is one, Rauen de Engelbi recorded in the 1185 Pipe Rolls of Yorkshire. It is also present in placenames such as Ravenscroft and Rawnsley. In England, a few early forms such as William atte Raven (London, 1344) suggest that it may also be partly derived from a house-sign or an inn-sign. Other variant spellings of the name include, Reven, Revance, Rivance, Revens, Revans and Ravens. One William Raven married Elizabeth Chalener on August 27th 1564 at St. Lawrence Jewry, London. A Coat of Arms granted to a Raven family on October 15th 1561 depicts, on a gold shield, a lion rampant double queued blue on a chief indented black three bezants. The Crest is a green demi dragon, winged red. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of William Raven, which was dated 1133, in the "Records of the Abbey of Ramsey", Bedfordshire, during the reign of King Henry 1, known as "The Administrator", 1100 - 1135. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.

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by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.3m points)
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It was in London and Essex counties and many others in England, also in Lanarkshire, Scotland.

Found a similar surname in Israel.

Minerva Ryevon

New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island)

Given Name Minerva
Surname Ryevon
Last Place of Residence Jerusalem
Event Date 26 May 1901
Age 58y
Departure Port Boulogne-sur-Mer
Arrival Port New York
Gender Female
Marital Status W
Citizenship Status X
Ship Name Statendam


"New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924," database, FamilySearch( : 6 December 2014), Minerva Ryevon, 26 May 1901; citing departure port Boulogne-sur-Mer, arrival port New York, ship name Statendam, NARA microfilm publication T715 and M237 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).


by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.3m points)

If your question is about Raven Gilkes, here's one.


Raven Gilkes

mentioned in the record of Robert Gilkes and Jane Morrall

Name Raven Gilkes
Gender Male
Son Robert Gilkes
Name Robert Gilkes
Spouse's Name Jane Morrall
Event Date 30 Oct 1839
Event Place Holborn, Middlesex, England
Father's Name Raven Gilkes
Spouse's Father's Name John Morrall
Marital Status Single
Spouse's Marital Status Single


"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch( : 10 December 2014), Raven Gilkes in entry for Robert Gilkes and Jane Morrall, 30 Oct 1839; citing Holborn, Middlesex, England, reference v 9 p 154; FHL microfilm 374,373.



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