Who was the wife of Henry Rowley (PGM)?

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The Great Migration Begins lists a daughter, without specifying her given name. It is not found in other documents.

Which is preferable?

1) enter her as Unknown?

2) enter her name as found in an Ancestry Family Tree noting that it is without further doucmentation, including a link  to the Tree?
WikiTree profile: Unknown Rowley
in Genealogy Help by Tom Bredehoft G2G6 Pilot (209k points)
edited by Jillaine Smith
I would list her as daughter of Rowley.  Then the source and any disputes you may have in the Bio.
Thank you, that  is what I have done.  I'd rather have a name, but it seems policy is otherwise and I understan the reasoning.  If a name (other than Unknown) is posted, some will assume it is correct, not following the reasoning posted.
I agree, scholastically. I am new to WikiTree, however. And I have noticed the "certain" not certain etc boxes. How would it be listed if you put the name you found on a family tree, checked the not certain button and explained your problem in a footnote?

Otherwise, I can't see much use for the boxes.

Sandy Taylor
Sandy, what I appreciate about the "uncertain" check boxes is that the display on the profile then makes it clear that this is an estimated date.

Interesting concept to include "uncertain" on actual name fields (vs. date fields and place fields). The alternative to "uncertain" for name fields is to a) use Unknown in the primary name field, and place possible names in either the nickname (for first names) or other last name fields (for lastnames).

And it's ALWAYS wise to explain problems and reasoning in the narrative section-- or link to a g2g topic if it needs discussion (like Tom did here).

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The practice I've been following (after having asked here quite some time ago), is to use "Unknown" in the relevant name field, and link to disputed names/profiles in the biography section under a header "== Disputed Origins =="
by Jillaine Smith G2G6 Pilot (907k points)
I think I would include the purported given name as a nickname.  That way, a search using the name would find it.
I've done that, Vic. But if there's also an existing profile, I link to it in the narrative.
Unknown it is.

 

Thanks for pointing the policy out to me.
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Someone sent me a private message from this profile page (Palmer-37) which really belongs here, I think:

Regarding this profile, may I suggest a first name of Sarah. This comes from http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Knowlton&GSfn=Stephen&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=64549885&df=all&

The link takes us to the Find-a-Grave entry for Stephen Knowlton. Its comments area includes a pedigree leading back to a Sarah Palmer. Unfortunately, there's no source information to support the pedigree. Reminds me of the phrase:

"Just because it's on the Internet doesn't make it true."

There are few-to-no controls over what people put on Find-a-Grave (or Ancestry.com or LDS Ancestral Files), so it's really important to find stronger evidence.

by Jillaine Smith G2G6 Pilot (907k points)

Related to this, I see that Tom B added links to a family tree on Ancestry.com as support of her origins and marriage. Unfortunately, that page, as well, has no source citations on it, so we have no idea where the tree-submittor got the information from.

In the absence of any sources, I am not opposed to linking to Ancestry.com or other online trees, but I suggest that when we do so, we try to find online trees that at least include their sources. 

 

People will be people. You can never be too sure that the grandfather who appears on your tree is the same one on the will, deed, court record. You must sometimes take the preponderance of evidence as it appears to you. How many John, James, etc. Smith's lived in the area in question. As a trained life long Scientist, I usually like to find several documented facts such that a preponderence of the evidence suggests that this is my ancestor. Of course, the farther back you go, the less conclusive evidence is available. In no spicific order, I like two or more known names, on the same document (deed, will, etc.) in the same geographic location, at the same time, with children who were named the same, etc. and no conflicting circumstances. "If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck and looks like a duck, then it's probably a duck".but one or two of those facts that match would not put me into a tail spin, if someone disagreed. Remember, in 1450, most people believed that the world was flat. Keep searching, keep an open mind, be patient with others and make the best reasoned judgement that you can. Be open to the suggestion that your judgement might be wrong and change your mind when better evidence is presented. The American Revolution is a formidable barrier as legal documents are  less available.
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What is the source for the specific baptism/birth date and names of parents, please?
by Jillaine Smith G2G6 Pilot (907k points)

When a person supposedly named Palmer is given a birthplace of Parham in England, it probably means that someone is trying to infer a relationship to Sir Thomas Palmer (and family) of that place. (I recently disassociated another New England immigrant named Palmer from this birthplace, as there was no basis for making the association.)

The source I have for Sarah Palmer is James Savage"s Savage's Dictionary.

I also believe there is a reference in William Palmer's will to his son-in-law or rather "son" Henry Rowley,implying that one of his daughters married a Henry.  I don't have a copy of the will to check this out.

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