what's DAR supplemental? is that like applying to be a member of the SAR? I think I've learned you should always at least try to save everything you find, except you can't print if your printer's out of ink, and all this techie stuff's been hard; I should have least tried to save the pic of the marker, since when I finally found again the place where I was able to contact the people about it the first time I learned they had indeed taken it down off their website and, great timing, they'd all just left to go to their annual big conference but are supposed to be back sometime this week and supposed to dig it back out and email it to me - ooh, which reminds, guess I am glad hub deleted all my emails, looked like I'd finally overwhelmed the system and it shut down on me, at least now, hopefully I will get it; didn't think about that when he said, guess had just thought I'd get back with him again; anyway, think they're also gonna try to put it back on their, also, new website, supposed they're just trying not to overwhelm it; anyway, not sure they require as much documentation as DAR, from what I somewhat got from somewhere along the way; anyway, in trying to do that, I was told and ended up contacting their national headquarters - though not where this conference is supposed to be, so guess they don't always have it at their headquarters - where I was told they don't actually have to be an actual soldier, just what they consider a "patriot", like your ancestor being a waiter, though not carrying arms; mine did supposedly take bedclothes or something like that (would need to look it up again) to his father's camp; so yours only served at the one battle? but like said no documentation re the battles he said he served at or even of the battles, not sure really pursue, since apparently, unless it was in error, and I guess might be some value in rectifiying it, but not like substantiating he should have gotten a pension would benefit him now, he didn't get it; he applied when he was 70; I think it's a time frame; according to something said you had to have served by 1783 and his actual service record - of only 3 mos. - has it in 1793 anyway, with him pretty much saying that most of the time before that he was at home, just trying to say he was doing his part on the home front, defending it from the Indians, but still trying to get a pension; I expect they just didn't feel that qualified - so more to it that his age, was more just trying to make the point, which you somewhat confirmed, that it wasn't unusual for teens at that time to go off and do something, but you also somewhat confirmed that it was more likely that they were serving with their fathers, just that someone seemed surprised at that; I think indicative of our times of not expecting anything of our teen-agers; an article in today's paper about that very thing about one of our military's teen-agers - a son - and how his mom doesn't want him to be "inconvenienced (though that may not be the exact word but you get the point)