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I would like a scan of the guys' pic Pat...I have written previously that it has been said that Frederick was the first black landscape painter in the US but now I am not so sure, truth is your photo may settle the matter. The paintings seem SO English one cannot help but doubt the black theory but there appears to be no good info on this artist at all and what there is is contradictory

Was reading about Frederick D Ogdon and as noted at the bottom of the page it says marriage to an Augusta Hackel . She would be my great Aunt. We have many original Ogdon paintings and would like to put a face to the name
hello Patrick..I have traced this Frederick back to his source family in West Virginia. The poster did send me the photo they found, I have found no other photo of him anywhere so I can't compare it to anything, it may be the only photo of Frederick Ogden. It is interesting that you spell the name Ogdon as this was a traditional spelling for these Ogdens who originally came from Maryland, prior to that the info is murky. The claim that the WV Ogdens are related to the "Pilgrim" line of Ogdens from NJ is probably wrong although the WV Ogdens now believe they are from that line...only a Y-DNA test will ever prove or disprove this once and for all, but then also no one from the Pilgrim line has posted any Y-DNA results either for comparison so we may never find out for sure. Are you looking for a picture of Frederick? I'll send you what was sent to me but remember, this may not be him.
Sorry for the mispelling. It is ogden. I've  got an oil painting from him dated 1934 that I got from my grandfather who got it from my great  aunt gusty (Augusta). My mom said she met him when she was little, she's   85 now and  she seems to not remember him as African american, although all the research  says so. Could you send a copy of the picture so I can show my mother
Patrick, I hope the person who may have a photo of Frederick Ogden can send you a copy. Unless it is marked, then will be a maybe unless more can be found. Some of this artist's paintings of landscapes are online, so can be researched. I do not have  a photo of him.Sorry! He, I don't believe, is in my Ogden line but all is worth researching.
Patrick, send me your email and I'll zap you the pic-let me know if your aunt gives a positive ID..garymuyskens@yahoo.com
I am an Ogden From Georgia.  y-DNA test indicate our line came from John Ogden of Rye.

Hi Walker, I am familiar with your name through your association with my collaborator Louis Ogden. This batch of Ogdens is from the West Virginia Ogdens. Near as anyone can tell they are not related to our batch or the "Pilgrim" batch nor any branches from those, nor are they or the Quaker bunch. Louis believes they are from some indentured Ogdens who came to MD. An old "biography" of some of the WV Ogdens claimed they were of the "Pilgrim" line and it seems descendants of that line believe so too. Only Y-dna tests submitted and compared between the various known branches of Ogdens will ever help to bring clarity to this question. Unfortunately only Rye descendants and some outliers have submitted their results against Louis(of the Rye) and so there is a long way to go. We need known male descendants from all of the Ogden lines; the Pilgrim/Elizabeth Ogdens, the Fairfield Ogdens, the Cumberland Ogdens, the Quaker Ogdens, the "Masterson" Ogdens of TX, the Doctor Ogdens of Missagua Canada and the Ogdons of MD to post their Y-dna results on Louis Ogden's page on One World Family.net and then maybe we can actually say who these WV Ogdens came from. This goes for the Ogdens in Sulligent AL, the Ogdens of TN, the Ogdens of IN, the Ogdens of AR, and others.

OK got the picture. Will show it to my mother when I see her next week. Would be nice if this was a picture of him.

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Name: Frederick D Ogden
Marriage Date: 8 Mar 1935
Spouse: Augusta Hackel
Marriage Location: Cook County, IL
Marriage license: {0DC85B20-6677-49AC-BD3A-8952960F14B3}
File Number: 1440968
Archive Collection Name: Cook County Genealogy Records (Marriages)
Archive repository location: Chicago, IL
Archive repository name: Cook County Clerk

Source Information

 Cook County Clerk, comp. Cook County Clerk Genealogy Records. Cook County Clerk’s Office, Chicago, IL: Cook County Clerk, 2008.

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1900 Census

Name: Fred D Ogden
Age: 8
Birth Date: Nov 1891
Birthplace: Illinois
Home in 1900: Augusta, Hancock, Illinois
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's name: John H Ogden
Father's Birthplace: Illinois
Mother's name: Jennie H Ogden
Mother's Birthplace: Illinois
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John H Ogden 43
Jennie H Ogden 46
Maud J Ogden 16
John H Ogden 13
Fred D Ogden 8


Source Citation

Year: 1900; Census Place: Augusta, Hancock, Illinois; Roll: 304; Page: 14B; Enumeration District: 0012; FHL microfilm: 1240304

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