Where can I find indentureship documents from the mid 1600s?

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I have scant documentation on my immigrant ancestor, Laurens Janszen Van Wormer.  I know that on 12 February 1659 Laurens departed from Amsterdam sailing on the De Trouw [2] , arriving in New Amsterdam on 5 May 1659. The ship captain was Jan Jansen Bestevaer.  I suspect that he was an indentured laborer.   Are there indentureship records?  If so, on which side of the Atlantic would I find them?  I will be in Amsterdam, Netherlands for a few days in November 2016.  If there is a place to go search, I want to do it.

WikiTree profile: Laurens Van Wormer
in Genealogy Help by Dana Schreder G2G2 (2.6k points)
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Our Dutch volunteers have been a huge help in finding a number of relevant records for New Netherland settlers in online archives in the Netherlands. They can advise you on where to go to find additional physical records when you are in Amsterdam. (But reading those records may present a challenge, unless you have studied up on old Dutch language and handwriting!)

To get their attention to your question, I suggest that you edit the tags on this question to become van_wormer and new_netherland_settlers, and add dutch_roots.
Thanks so much, Ellen.  I did the deed.  :)

Dana
I looked through some New Netherland documents (Correspondence of Jeremias van Rensselaer, Documents Relative to the Colonial History, Powers of Attorney, Acknowledgements, Indentures of Apprentices, Inventories, Etc., Calendar of Historical Manuscripts) and didn't find anything.

In Dutch these are ''leercontracten'' see example below: 

In 1660 bezocht kuiper Teunis Pijl samen met de Rotterdamse zilversmid Eduard Entvogel de notaris. Zij lieten vastleggen dat de veertienjarige zoon van Teunis in de leer zou gaan bij Eduard. De zilversmid moest de jongen gedurende vier jaar een slaapplaats bieden, te eten en te drinken geven, zijn hemden laten wassen en iedere week twee stuivers ‘zondagsgeld’ uitkeren. Teunis beloofde op zijn beurt zijn zoon van kleding en schoenen te voorzien. Eduard kreeg binnen een maand na het sluiten van het contract een gouden munt en kon ieder jaar een betaling van vijftig guldens voor zijn diensten verwachten.

Dergelijke leercontracten behoren tot de weinige bronnen waardoor meer inzicht kan worden verkregen in de afspraken met betrekking tot de kennisoverdracht op de werkvloer. Ongeacht het bestaan van dit soort bronnen is er nog steeds veel onbekend over dit onderwerp

Dana wil dus graag weten of en waar ze terecht kan voor dit soort en alle andere bronnen als ze in Amsterdam is. 

Dana the Adress of the Amsterdam archive where you can go for all info/records is : 

Het Stadsarchief Amsterdam/ City Archives Amsterdam, het voormalig gemeentearchief Amsterdam, beheert archiefmateriaal met betrekking tot de geschiedenis van Amsterdam en de Amsterdammers | the former muncipal archives of Amsterdam, manages archives (all archive material) relating to the history of Amsterdam and all inhabitants/locals from Amsterdam

AdresVijzelstraat 32, 1017 HL Amsterdam 

ProvincieNoord-Holland

Telefoon: 020 251 1511 (if you're in Amsterdam this is the phone number of the archive if you would like to make an appointement)

And maybe we have members that live in or near Amsterdam who maybe are willing to go there and look for more info or records for you ?

You are wonderful!  

I will be in Amsterdam Nov. 17, 2016.  I hope to hire a research companion.  Do you have any leads?

Dana,

Maybe you could contact Yvette Hoitink.

More professional genealogists can be found here.

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Just found this: 

Grafelijkheidsrekenkamer: 

: Windrechten, Name-Naam: Jan Laurensz. and-en Willem Gerritsz., van Wormer

Place-Plaats Wormer Date-Datum 1618 juni 11 Object Olijmolen (Oil mill) Sum-Bedrag 2 pond 10 schelling

Jan Laurensz and Wilem Gerritsz from Wormer had to pay windrights, (I guess some sort of tax for millers ) now Jan Laurensz. because of the name and patronymic. might have been the father of Laurens Jansz of Wormer ? 

And there are more names of men from Wormer (and other places) but Jan Laurensz. van Wormer sounds very good eeh :) Will look for more 

 

by Bea Wijma G2G6 Pilot (274k points)

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