Does anyone care to help with this conundrum

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Hello everyone, I am working on the WikiTree Database Error project and specifically a error code 310 (Mother was dead before birth), Elizabeth Call (Call-178 "the mother") and Judith Gibson (Gibson-1851 "the Daughter"). The mother is listed in her WikiTree Profile page as having a death date of 1740 in Frederick, Spotsylvania, Virginia. The Daughter is listed in her WikiTree Profile page as having a birth date of Born 1742 in Bedford, Bedford, Virginia, USA. Obviously the daughter cannot have been born 2 years +/- after her mother has died. So the dates of death and birth are suspect. Birth records during this time frame are much more scarce than death records so I have focused on Elizabeth Call's death date. One record that was showing a different date is Family Search org. [https://familysearch.org/tree/#view=ancestor&section=details&person=LCRS-1ZJ]. Family Search org shows date of death for Elizabeth Call (wife of John Gibson) as 1751 in Frederick, Virginia, and of course there is a mystery to it as well as Judith Is not listed as being a child of Elizabeth. A note does appear on this record about possible missing children, as a time gap exist between the shown birth of the 10th and 11th child, of 8 years where Judith's birth date would fit in. Another record on Geni.com reflects a date of death for Elizabeth Call (wife of John Frederick Gibson) as 1765 in Anson County, NC. [https://www.geni.com/people/ElizabethCall/6000000026942674593] A additional record shows that Elizabeth Call (wife of John Gibson) died Abt. 1760 in Frederick, VA, [http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/g/i/b/Pat-G-Gibson/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-1068.html] Bottom line is that the data as recorded jumps from one date to the next proving only that people populate the data (Garbage in/Garbage out) and if no verifiable evidence exist then anyone can put any un-confirmable date in a Date of Death. If anyone has some spare time or just likes the challenge of sleuthing, can you please look at the listed web links and possibly help me resolve the WikiTree Database Error project error code 310 (Mother was dead before birth). Any help would be greatly appreciated, best regards, Don Gibson

WikiTree profile: Donald Gibson
in Genealogy Help by Donald Gibson G2G6 Mach 1 (12.7k points)
On the face of it, it's a puzzle why Joseph and Judith would grow up together in North Farnham Parish and go all the way to Bedford County to get married.

But my guess would be that Judith is Judith Unknown really, and she's been found some parents with her married name.  It's very common out there in the jungle.

As for the dates of death, there's a possibility that John remarried.  The death records wouldn't give the maiden name and you can't trust anything that's not in the original records.

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