How do i prove my cherokee connection, since some cherokee natives indicated white/caucasion race in wva arwa

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Dad = Frank Adams his mother Edna Adams,Kinser,Carter (Boyd Kinser, Jesse Carter) her husband's WV area ? Kanawha County, WV

Edna's dad George Adams

Dad's Frank's dad Charley Adams, although birth certificate says Jesse Carter, marriage certificate says Charley Adams
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Well. It's a hard one. Do you have records for the Ancestors of these people, beyond the information you have where they show as "white"? This can be traditional Genealogical work or through Oral traditions documented elsewhere.

Mags
by Mags Gaulden G2G6 Pilot (534k points)
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Indian ancestry is more complicated. Unless your ancesters are listed on various rolls then you probably will never be able to find out if they are part Cherokee or not. I am not sure if DNA testing will show Cherokee ancestry. The Cherokee Nation will only recognize the Dawes rolls for citizenship into the Cherokee Nation. You might be able to go to the National Archives and search online through the various rolls.

I have the same problem. My mother-in-law always thought she was part Cherokee yet her ancesters are not on the Dawes rolls. I haven't checked all the other rolls yet. Her father did live in Oklahoma on Cherokee land and is on a Cherokee census but that's as close as I get. His mother and her ancesters aren't listed on the Dawes rolls and my mother-in-law has since passed away. 

Good luck!

Here is a list of the various rolls from Cherokee.org website:

  • Rolls Before and During Removal 
    Reservation Rolls 1817
    Cherokees who chose to accept a plot of land on the Cherokee reservation (in the Eastern homeland). 

    Emigration Rolls 1817-1835
    Cherokee who chose to "emigrate" to Indian Territory west of the Mississippi River in present day Oklahoma and Arkansas (prior to the Trail of Tears.) 

    Henderson Roll 1835
    Cherokees who were to be removed to Indian Territory on what would later be called the Trail of Tears. 

    Mullay Roll 1848
    Cherokees who remained in North Carolina after removal.

       
    • Post Removal Rolls 

      Siler Roll 1851 - Eastern
      Eastern Cherokee entitled to per capita payment. 

      Old Settler Roll 1851 - Western
      Recorded those Cherokee (still living) who had emigrated to Indian Territory prior to removal. 

      Chapman Roll 1852 - Eastern
      Eastern Cherokee who actually received payment from the government (reference to Siler Roll). 
      Drennen Roll 1852 - Western
      Recorded those Cherokee who came to Indian Territory in 1839 on the Trail of Tears. 

      Swetland Roll 1869 - Eastern
      Recorded those Cherokees, and their descendants who were listed on the Mullay Roll as residing in North Carolina. 

      Hester Roll 1883 - Eastern
      Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians that provides a great deal of detail about those listed. 

      Churchill Roll 1908 - Eastern
      Additional roll of the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians which also include those rejected from the Eastern Band. 

      Guion Miller Roll 1909 - Eastern and Western
      For Cherokees (east and west) excluding the "Old Settlers." 

      Baker Roll 1924 - Eastern
      The final roll of the Eastern Band of the Cherokee in anticipation of allotment. The land was not allotted and the reservation still exists. This roll is the basis for tribal membership in the Eastern Band. 

      The Dawes Rolls 1898-1914 - Western
      The final roll of the western Cherokee. Allotment of Cherokee land to Cherokee individuals was based on this roll. Direct descendency from someone on this roll is required for tribal citizenship in the Cherokee Nation today.
    by Nancy Hagen G2G1 (1.5k points)
    Thanks for those links. And I'll also add that it is close to impossible in some cases to find anything on black and white.  My family is full of detailed stories of Cherokee origin, but nothing concrete to back them up. The closest I've come is a document of enlistment in the Cherokee Mounted Volunteers for the Civil War.

    All I can suggest is to try and find the point where ther trail goes completely cold. You can't find any record of parents from that point. Or a great grandparent that just doesn't have a surname before marriage. THERE is possibly where the Indian blood came into the family. But that too is just a theory and might lead nowhere.

    Finding and proving your roots can be very frustrating. :-)

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