Geoffrey Matthew b.1480 Exeter Devon, England did he exist and can I get information added ,Thanks

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Will or Land records needed, Please

Answer 1

Clearly the profile manager is of an opinion that he exists, but is unable to offer a source to that belief. The profile must be treated with extreme caution as few records exist pre 1538 in England.

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Ok Thank's

Answer 2

Looking at the profile, my guess is that these people are either landowning or prosperous middle class, of which there are records, although they will not be church ones necessarily They will more likely be land acquisitions or wills and the like. Looking around the net, he more than appears to exist. He seems to be one of the Matthews of Stowell Devon.

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I would like all the information I could find, I just can't see any information

Thanks

Answer 3

Could be a conflation.  According to this, the grandfather of William Tothill was a Welshman.

http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1558-1603/member/tothill-geoffrey-1574

Are we sure Elizabeth and Stephen were sibs, or could they be the children of two different Geoffreys?

 

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http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=john%5Fd%5Fnewport&id=I65759

Cites Miscellanea, a biennial, but doesn't give the issue.  Might not say any more than is given here.

List of issues

http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/links/mgh.shtml 

 

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Not convinced about "Vorganwg, Pemb.", since Vorganwg seems to be just an old spelling of a mutated form of Morgannwg, Welsh for Glamorgan.

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Can't see anything on Stephen Matthew's parentage.  Perhaps there's only the one Geoffrey, the Welsh one.

The story seems to be that Richard Newberry married Grace daughter of John Matthew and had lots of little Newberries all in Yarcombe, Devon.  But Richard came from Dorset, though with no dates or parents.

The Newberries are made to descend from suitably posh Newburghs, but not by the obvious route.  Instead, John Matthew's mother is made to be a Newburgh, born in Devon for no apparent reason.  Then her father leaves his kids in Devon and is mysteriously drawn to Dorset to die in the same village his great-granddaughter's husband will be mysteriously born in 40 years later.

My theory is reincarnation.

Actually it's a rescue attempt.  The original royal descent of Richard Newberry got disproved, so the Matthew detour is Plan B.