Any objection to changing LNAB to Nation and reattaching parents John and Bethiah Robins Nation? [closed]

+7 votes
It's pretty well established that:
* Marmaduke Vickery married Elizabeth
* Christopher Nation married Elizabeth
* Both could not have married the same Elizabeth as they were both mentioned in their respective Wills
* John Nation had a daughter Elizabeth b. c. 1719 in New Jersey that married a Vickery
* Willem Thijssen Swaim had a daughter Elizabeth b. c. 1720 in New York
* Vickery, Swaim, Nation, and Robins Families were closely intertwined throughout the mid to late 1700's in VA & NC

It is my firm belief that the Find-a-Grave Memorial referenced in this Bio is full of error and speculation. I believe Christopher Nation married Elizabeth Swaim, but cannot deny the possibility that he actually married Elizabeth Sharpe. I see no reason to believe Marmaduke Vickery married anyone other than Christopher's sister, Elizabeth Nation.

In the spirit of collaboration, I would like to open this up to discussion before making the change, in hopes someone may have something conclusive I have thus far missed.

Thank you! <br/>
[[Rich-1922|- P Rich]]
WikiTree profile: Elizabeth Vickery
closed with the note: Changes made, carry on.
in Policy and Style by Phillip Rich G2G6 Mach 4 (48.8k points)
closed by Phillip Rich
Phikip, I don't see anything on her profile that makes the case for her connections. So how do we decide?
I thought the comments with links pretty much made the case... the bio is info that was recently copied from the Find-a-Grave Memorial referenced. My intent was to decide which way to go with the profile then rewrite the bio accordingly.
Maybe this will help, here are the other profiles involved in this question-

John Nation:

Christopher Nation:

Marmaduke Vickery:

Elizabeth Swaim Nation:
Sorry. Didn't see the comments. My bad. I see a couple refs to US and International Marriages. horrid source. Don't rely on it. Have you tried familysearch?
Dug through FS pretty exhaustively. But when you go to Virginia FS Wiki, it's quickly apparent that Ancestry has systematically hijacked pretty much every VA Marriage source before 1850. And looks like most of them aren't indexed.
Just finished scanning the Lloyd B Swaim book which pretty exhaustively searched the Swaim family names and the only references I found to Elizabeth were "Elizabeth ? Vickery wife of Marmaduke Vickery". But he didn't get into the Nation branch at all. The only hard evidence I can find is the will of Elizabeth's Father John. He listed her as "Elizabeth Vickery". That added to the fact that the children of Marmaduke and Elizabeth Vickery are named for Nation family members.
Philip, it looks great, much better than I can do :)

3 Answers

+3 votes

None from me. 

P. R. here is a good one for ya: Ethel Caroline (Goode) Vickery, Daughter of:

Edith Houston (Baily) Goode Hauser Dent Step-daughter: Edith B (Dent) Moore .

Ethel Caroline (Goode) Vickery's Aunt: Caroline Baily (Carrie Baily) .

Ethel Caroline (Goode) Vickery's Step-sister: Ethel Hauser. 

I pulled out many hairs from my head on these Federal Censuses

All Friends Quakers. 

HAGD & T Y for all you do for WikiTree, JPV IV :)

by Anonymous Vickery G2G6 Pilot (264k points)
My head hurts just looking at that family group... Why couldn't our ancestors come up with ORIGINAL names, and not use the same ones over and over! You know, something like "Marmaduke" or "Littleberry". Didn't they realize the trouble they would cause us? ;-)

Thanks for the laugh John, and right back at ya!
+3 votes

(If it falls off my Start-up page I'm liable to get... oooo look at the butterfly!)

-P Rich
by Phillip Rich G2G6 Mach 4 (48.8k points)
+3 votes
Edits Made, please review and let me know if anything needs to be added/removed/changed (or just make the appropriate edit).

Thank you all for your help and support, blah-blah, blah-blah-blah.

We now return to your regularly scheduled...

- P Rich
by Phillip Rich G2G6 Mach 4 (48.8k points)

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