Any information on Richard M. Hill born in 1810 in England?

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He was born in 1810, possibly from the Dent, Yorkshire, England area....immigrated in 1840 to the United States and married Sarah Ann Chapman on 1/6/1843 in Parke County, IN and died in Fountain County, IN in 1900.

He had 3 sons, George C. Hill, Thomas Hill, and James Hill.

I don't have any information on his parents....and just know that he was an apprentice to a butcher in the London area before he immigrated to the US.

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There were two Richard Hill's born or christened in London in 1810. 

Name:	Richard Hill
Gender:	Male
Christening Date:	25 Mar 1810
Christening Place:	SAINT ANDREW,HOLBORN,LONDON,ENGLAND
Father's Name:	Richard Hill
Mother's Name:	Eleanor

 

 

Name:	Richard Hill
Gender:	Male
Christening Date:	14 Apr 1811
Christening Place:	SAINT LEONARDS,SHOREDITCH,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date:	24 Aug 1810
Father's Name:	Richard Hill
Mother's Name:	Fanny

 

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Very interesting, thank you! The birthdate i have is March 11, 1810.  Is it possible for someone to be christened when they are 2 weeks old, however?

I have also seen a birth date of "March 1811" on a census but do not think that is correct.

 

Thank you!
Stephanie

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In doing an internet search on "How soon after birth can an infant be christened?" Answers came up such as A. within the first few weeks after birth, B. In the late 1700's until the 1800's a Norwegian infant was usually baptized within 1-3 days after birth. Some traditions have children baptized one year after their birth. I have an ancestor who was either born or christened in 1592 in England.

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For what it is worth they lived in Charles Street according to the baptism record.

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Yeah i don't believe either of those baptisms belong to RIchard Hill as he lived in the Yorkshire area and wouldn't have come to London to be born...so i guess back to square 1....

Is there any way to get a hold of immigration papers for a Richard Hill who supposedly immigrated to the US in 1840....assuming to NYC??

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There were several Richard Williams born in Yorkshire:

Christening 8 December 1810 Silkstone, York, England

Birth 11 June 1810, Christening 12 Aug 1810. Cathedral St. Peter, Sheffield, York, England.

You can find more at   familysearch.org   Just enter his name, bithplace and so on, and run the search.

Name:	Richard M Hill
Event Place:	Poughkeepsie, Dutchess, New York

Regarding his arrival, possibly in NY in 1840: 

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First of all, thank you for your response!

Do you mean there are several Richard HILLS born in Yorkshire? Because you said "WIlliams"...

If you DID mean Hill, then that christening on 12/8/1810 sounds like it is possible, especially in the Yorkshire area.

I've never had any luck searching on Familysearch.org regarding Richard Hill.

So that looks like it's him -- richard M. Hill arriving there in 1840...is there any document showing this and an exact arrival date?

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My mistake, the full name was Richard Williams Bakewell Hill of Silkstone. I 'm assuming that your M. for his middle initial is correct so, this one can be ruled out. 

If there is a document on Richard M. Hill's arrival date, I don't know how to access it, but maybe someone else at Wikitree.com would have some insight here. 

Name:	Richard Hill
Gender:	Male
Christening Date:	12 Aug 1810
Christening Place:	CATHEDRAL SAINT PETER,SHEFFIELD,YORK,ENGLAND
Birth Date:	11 Jun 1810
Father's Name:	Samuel Hill
Mother's Name:	Sarah

 

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I wish this was the RIchard you said was born on 6/11/1810 but I have RIchard Hill down on 3/11/1810, and it has that on his gravestone as well.

But yes, i hope someone out there can help me with any immigration documents for Richard M. Hill who arrived in New York in 1840!

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I think it is worth pointing out that Dent (if you are right about that) is a very long way from either Silkstone or Sheffield.

However, IGI has the records for Dent and there was no Hill christened there in 1810 or 1811. Not that that means he wasn't born there.

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Hi, I'm still stuck on this Richard Hill. I also found a baptism for a Richard Hill on 1 January 1811, in Hubberholme, York, England showing a father's name of Thomas Hill.  If Richard Hill stuck to the typical naming convention of his sons, George, Thomas and James, Thomas COULD be his father's name. (his son George C looks to be named after his wife's father, George Chapman.)

Can anyone locate this Richard Hill on any census after his birth that could prove/disprove this to be my GGGGrandfather? I wasn't able to locate anymore documents for this Richard.

Also, a prior baptism record I could also not disprove to be my Richard is the one born to Samuel, born on June 11, 1810.

Answer 1

Assuming Richard's fathers name is Thomas, here are some in York:    https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5GL-BT1                                   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NPK6-69P                                 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VWZF-9LW                                                     https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J8WZ-BZ7                                https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXZM-12S    

Richard Hill's father could easily have anotherfirst name than Thomas.

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Hi Frank!

Thank you for these searches.  Is there any way of connecting a particular burial date for Richard to a baptism record to make sure it's the same person? If I can rule out Richards, that would help.  

That marriage record can't be for him....as he'd only be 13 at the time of that marriage.

But yes, i'm just making an assumption that his father's name could be Thomas...but who knows. Again, just trying to rule out certain baptism records in England.

Thank you!
Stephanie