Only starting on this site right now but very keen to know anything about Schramm family from Heligoland

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David Schramm born Heligoland 1881
in The Tree House by Maureen Shram G2G Crew (330 points)

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Since Helgoland became German only in 1890 I don't know specifics about vital records from the British time, but perhaps the Standesamt Helgoland can direct you to 1881 birth records, Their email is standesamt‎@gemeinde-helgoland.de

by Helmut Jungschaffer G2G6 Pilot (496k points)
selected by Maureen Shram

The protestant church is another possible source for more information. Their email address is helgoland@kirche-dithmarschen.de             

Thank you Helmut. I used the email address you give and emailed my query in English. An immediate reply came in German which I do not understand. Following the link that was shown I have reached this page

http://www.helgoland.de/helgoland/die-verwaltung-der-gemeinde-helgoland-rathaus/die-verwaltung-zustaendigkeiten/standesamt.html

Also German you will see. It doesn't appear to be genealogically inclined but I appreciate your response. Will try your second suggestion when I have time to get back to it

The Standesamt is the registrar's office and the website contains directions about obtaining documents in a very general way. The relevant section is this:

Anforderung von Urkunden und begl. Abschriften

Bitte senden Sie uns Ihre schriftliche Anfrage

mit Ihrem Absender und Ihrer Telefon-Nr.,

Ihrem Geburtsdatum / Ihrem Heiratsdatum

und wofür Sie die Urkunde/begl. Abschrift benötigen

per Mail an » Standesamt‎ @ ‎ gemeinde-helgoland.de oder

per Post an Standesamt Helgoland, Lung Wai 28, 27498 Helgoland

Translation:

Request for documents and certified transcripts

Please send a written request with your address and phone number, your birth date/marriage date and the reason you need the document/certified transcript via email to "standesamt‎@gemeinde-helgoland.de" or by mail to Standesamt Helgoland, Lung Wai 28, 27498 Helgoland.

If you can post the email you got here I can look if there is more relevant information in it.

Thank you for your reply. Will work on your suggestion and post again. I actually lost the site where I had asked the original question
Hello Helmut - I separately contacted the kirche and received very friendly reply from the Pastorin. I have followed her suggestion and sent a further request to someone else who may help. Will post any success

Sehr geehrte Frau Shram,

 

leider kann ich Ihnen nicht behilflich sein, da die Register erst ab 1900 im Standesamt geführt werden.

 

Bitte wenden Sie sich mit Ihrem Anliegen an den Familienforscher Erich-Nummel Krüss

http://www.helgoland-genealogie.info/kontakt/

 

oder an die hiesige Kirche https://www.kirche-helgoland.de/kontakt.html

 

 

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

 

Roswitha Juds

Standesbeamtin

 

Standesamt Helgoland

Lung Wai 28

27498 Helgoland

Fax: 04725/808-72

Kontakt bitte per E-Mail: standesamt@gemeinde-helgoland.de

mehr Informationen: Fachamt 1 - Standesamt

www.helgoland.de

 

 

Vertraulichkeitsvermerk:
Der Inhalt dieser E-Mail ist vertraulich und unterliegt dem Datenschutz. Wenn Sie diese E-Mail irrtümlich erhalten haben, benachrichtigen Sie den Absender bitte umgehend telefonisch oder per E-Mail
und löschen Sie diese Information aus Ihrem EDV-System. Diese E-Mail darf weder kopiert oder für andere Zwecke verwendet werden noch darf ihr Inhalt anderen Personen offen gelegt werden

 

 

 

 

 

Von: Maureen Shram [
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Oktober 2016 18:50
An: Juds, Roswitha
Betreff: Helgoland birth records

Just says they only hold records from 1900 on. The contact given is for a professional, so I would try the church first.
Thank you very much Helmut

Dear Helmut
I received a friendly email reply from Hans Peter Voss to my letter enquiring about the kirche records today and copy below. Not sure if you can take anything more from this than that written in English but it may help in the general understanding about how limited the Island records are for parts of their history. Very sad I think.

Regards Maureen


(see below)

To

Message body

Dear Mrs. Shram,

 

because of the WW-II. a very lot of church books are destroyed or lost.

The records of HELGOLAND:

 

Baptismal records are lost from 1838 up to 1912.

Marriage records are lost from 1812 up to 1897

Burials are lost from 1823 up to 1899.

 

Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Hans-Peter Voß

 

Ev.-Luth. Kirchenkreis Dithmarschen

Kirchenkreisbuchamt / Archiv

Nordermarkt 8

25704 Meldorf

 

http://kirche-dithmarschen.de/verwaltung/das-kirchenkreisarchiv/

 

Das Archiv ist  montags und dienstags von 8.00 bis 16.00 Uhr geöffnet, eine vorherige telefonische Terminabsprache ist für einen Besuch notwendig.

Tel.: 04832-972-381 (Voß, Archiv)

 

This is very unfortunate as you would have to reconstruct at least 2 more generations from other sources until you could reconnect with existing church books. Unless there are British records somewhere since the island was British for the time concerned.
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Hi Maureen - I found a number of David Schramms in Germany 1881 birth records but I need more info to narrow it down. Names of some family members would help and anything else you know.

Welcome to WikiTree.
by Patricia Stockley G2G6 Pilot (112k points)
Between 1807 and 1890 Helgoland was British, before that Danish. Don't know if German records for that time would list Helgoland births.
Thank you Patricia. I only have note that his father was named John Schramm. David was a Mariner. Lived in Hull. Had 9 children. Married Harriet Carrell Pounsbury. He died 1st June 1905 in Hull workhouse
Hello again Patricia

I was very excited to get some suggestions about Helgoland records being possible for my great-grandfather and nearly got myself in a muddle. I am trying to follow up advice received from Helmut Jungschaffer now. I have also found a note I made some time ago with no reference (I wion't do that again now I've learned the hard way) Anyway, I noted that John Schramm was a mason. Really not sure that is right but could be a clue.
Hello Patricia Stockley. I did reply to your original answer, dated Oct 10, but not sure that you have been able to view them as they run following comments by Helmut Jungschaffer.

I would be very interested to have any of the details you discovered about David Schramms. Would the German records relate to residents of Helgoland do you know please?

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