Looking for Birth and Death for Johannes Di_Arutuin

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I have a birth date of Feb 27 1909 in Amsterdam for Johannes Bernardus di_ Arutuin and a death date of 19 Jul 1985 also Amsterdam but can not find any online sources to support this.

His Parents should be  Gerrit di Arutuin and Hendrika Alberdina Mater who married in 1908.

Any help finding sources would be a great help and much appreicated

WikiTree profile: Johannes di Arutuin
in Genealogy Help by Carol Biddiss G2G4 (4.2k points)

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Post-1811 records of vital events in Amsterdam can be found primarily:

  • Marriages: WieWasWie.nl
  • Other: Familysearch.org via ZoekAkten.nl

Also, privacy regulations only allow publication of official certificates after:

  • Birth: 100 years
  • Marriage: 75 years
  • Death: 50 years

So a birth certificate could be found on Familysearch, but unfortunately they only filmed certificates up to and including 1902. The next best document is an extract of the birth certificate. At marriage people had to give proof of identity by supplying that document, that was then archived as an attachment to the marriage certificate. In this case the extract can be found by:

  • Noting in the WieWasWie index record: "Record number: Reg.2B fol. 19v"
  • Locating the Familysearch film containing the extracts through ZoekAkten
  • Searching the film for images of "19v"

And then you should find:

"Netherlands, Noord-Holland, Civil Registration, 1811-1950," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-30619-23093-84?cc=2020117 : 21 May 2014), Amsterdam > Huwelijksbijlagen 1932, inv. 4152/reg 1b - inv. 4157/reg 2b > image 2780 of 3187; Noord-Hollands Archief, Haarlem (Noord-Hollands Archives, Haarlem).

The death of Johannes Bernardus was reported in an obituary that can be found on Delpher.nl, where scans of millions of newspaper pages can be searched.

On 19 August 1985 died unexpectedly and calm

our honest, caring husband and father and nice granddad


at the age of 76 years.



by Jan Terink G2G6 Pilot (260k points)
selected by Carol Biddiss
Many thanks for this information. This is great. Not only do i have the answer to my question but you have shown me how you got to the answer. I can now follow your steps to find more answers to more questions.

Your help is much appreciated as always



I should also have mentioned that there is a kind of 'howto' for Zoekakten here on WikiTree, with special attention to Amsterdam records. Furthermore there is a list of Dutch Archives.

I also found a private tree about the "di Arutuins".

Thank you again. I will have a read this afternoon.


In case you need info/sources for the parents you named: They were married 5 Feb. 1908 at Amsterdam.

Father: Gerrit di Arutuin (b. abt 1880, Amsterdam, son of Hendrik Johannes di Arutuin and Geertruida Denker)

Mother: Hendrika Alberdina Mater (b. abt 1889, Amsterdam, daughter of Albertus Mater and Hendrika Velder)


1. "Familieberichten", Algemeen Handelsblad (Amsterdam), 6 Feb 1908, p. 2; consulted through Delpher (link to article).

2. Amsterdam, Burgerlijke Stand Huwelijken (1908), vol 4, folio 31V, akte 60, 5 Feb 1908, marriage of Gerrit di Arutuin and Hendrika Alberdina Mater; consulted through: "Netherlands, Noord-Holland, Civil Registration, 1811-1950," FamilySearch (link); imaged from FHL microfilm 4558583.

The newspaper entry for the birth of Johannes Bernardus was a little harder to find as there was an error in the father's surname which is given as Arntuin. The entry is "J. B. Arntuin —Mater, z[oon]", but the specific date of birth is not given just that it was aangegeven (declared) 1 March.

Source: "Familieberichten", Algemeen Handelsblad (Amsterdam), 3 Mar 1909, p. 14; consulted through Delpher (link to article).

Father Gerrit de Arutuin was born 14 Dec 1879. (Akte 11097), and his father Hendrik Johannes di Arutuin was born about 1840.

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