Confused, I found two differant dates of Marriage

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I found two differant dates of marriage for Jacques Bergeron Dit Johiel, so which one is correct??

Name:     
Jacques Bergeron Dit Johiel
Marriage:     
1669 in Trois-Rivieres 3
Publication:     
Quebec, Canada
Vital:     
1669 in Trois-Rivieres 3

Canadian Genealogy Index, 1600s-1900s about Jacques Bergeron Dit Johiel
Name:     Jacques Bergeron Dit Johiel
Event:     Married
Year:     1669
Place:     Trois-Rivieres 3
Province:     Quebec
Source:     L'Abbe D Tanguay, ADS, Dictionnaire Genealogique des Familles Canadiennes Depuis la Fondation de la Colonie Jusqu'a Nos Jours, Premier Volume, Depuis 1608 jusqu'a 1700, Eusebe Senecal, 1871.
Volume/Page:     42

Family Data Collection - Marriages about Jacques Louis Joyelle
Name: Jacques Louis Joyelle
Spouse: Marie Gertrude Moral
Marriage Date (Day, Month, Year): 10 Oct 1676
City: St Maurice
County: Trois Rivieres
State: Pq
in Genealogy Help by Steven Simons G2G Rookie (280 points)
Possibly his first wife died - common in childbirth?
It may will be, Guess I will have explore that futher. I was doing my side of the family ( Simon-Cimon-Simons)   now doing the wifes side JOYAL. Thanks for your input

Although sometimes it is indeed another marriage, I have usually found it is a relative of another with the same name. A quick look online indicates two persons with the same qualifying name, but with DOBs of 1642 & 1678.

http://www.myheritage.com/research?action=query&formId=1&formMode=0&qname=Name+fnmo.2+fnmsvos.1+fnmsmi.1+ln.Bergeron%2F3Dit%2F3Johiel+lnmo.3+lnmsdm.1+lnmsmf3.1+lnmsrs.1

show several possible connections.

The site found at:

http://www.deloriahurst.com/deloriahurst%20page/5499.html

is showing “marriage to Gertrude Moral (Maural) dit St. Cantin on 10 Niv 1976, Trois Riveres, Maskinnonga, Quebec.” As well as  “Married under the dame of Bergeron-Johel, say Bergerac. Arrived into 1656, was an interpreter and traded in furs. (Raynald Drouin, http://epf.planete.qc.ca)” Retrieved 02 Jul 2013.

I would contact this site as they appear to have much more data available as well as historical documentation.

UPDATE:

Real hard to type with a 2 year old at the keyboard LOL. That should read "10 Nov and 1776".

If these marriages were in 1669 and 1676 - a dob in 1678 might be a child, but certainly not the spouse referred in these marriages, while 1642 could be the spouse.

and I'm guessing 10 Niv 1976 is a typo for ? what year.

The more I check in to it, I think it ,maybe two seperate families

Thanks for your reply
Jacques Joyal married Gertrude Moral 10 Nov 1676 at L'Immaculee Conception Trois Riviers Comte St Maurice PQ. (Register of Marriages Trois Rivieres thru the Drouin Institute Montreal)

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I have found lots of problems with "Family Data Collection" information.  The basis of this collection is in many cases "word of mouth".   However, due to the large discrepancy in dates, I would agree with the comment about 2 different wives.
by Robin Lee G2G6 Pilot (862k points)
It may be that they are two different people as families 'honored' respected family members by naming children after them. If I was sure they were all the same person, I'd go with the better documented one, or if you know the wife's name was Marie Gertrude Moral, I'd follow that lead. I see no spousal identification in your first two entries.

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