A connection between the Dancey's of Gloucester & the Dancey/Dancys in Ireland- Meath, Monaghan & Cavan)

Question

Has there been any reseach/collaboration on possilbe link ups between Dancey's in Ireland (it appears they were likely part of the Cromwellite settlement of the northern parts of Ireland), and the Dancey's in Gloucester/Wilthsire?

Answer 1

Hi

Happy to help in determining any connection. I had thought the connection was elsewhere. Currently my Dancey line can be traced with certainty to 1709nandntheereafter in Turkdean and Churchdown and by supposition traces back to Kingscote around 1650. however no links have been established with Dancey/Dauncey in Wooton or Uley. Neither have any connections to Dancey in Box in Wiltshire, 17th century London or Sussex.

What do you know of the early Irish Dancey's.

Cheers

Clive

Comments

Hi again Clive

Do you know if you have any DNA connections with the Dancy lines that emerged in Virginia, and the Carolinas in USA from about late 1600's/1700's?

 I have now got DNA confimed matches to some of these USA lines, so somehow they link to the Irish Dancey's that I have as ancestors in my tree

Roz

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Hi Clive I'm now starting to get DNA matches at 5th-8th cousin on Ancestry, which, if their  trees are to be believed, do link me to early Kent Danceys (1670's/80's) and also to a bit later Danceys from the Uley/Stroud area as well as Wiltshire (Melksham)

I won't have time for a while to  thoroughly explore this as I'm busy on a personal level but I can message you once things are less hectic.

Roz

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hi

hope you are well

I have only just seen your message from Sep 8 ( or at any rate in my defence I have no recall of having seen it before :-)).

Sorry for lack of precision, but somewhere recently I saw links suggesting that the US& Canadian Danceys originated in Ireland and also that the Irish Danceys were from the London/Kent Danceys. As yet I still have not made ant connection from my Dancey group to any other Dancey community other than descendants.

Cheers

Clive

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Hi Clive

 Many theories abound on the Dance/Dancy origins - I know for sure (via my and my Irish cousin Dancey  autosomnal DNA matches) that most of the " Canadian" Dancy/Danceys emigrated to there from Ireland. But some Canadian Danceys emigrated from England too. These Irish Danceys probably/ possibly emigrated from England in the early 1600's as part of the James 1 plantation of the kingdom of Ulster. And I and my "Irish" Dancey cousins also have DNA matcehs to descendants of the very early Dancey colonial settlers in Virginia and North Carolina ([possibly direct from England but maybe in the early 1700's direct from Ireland).

I'm not sure I follow your comment that you've not yet made any connections from your Dancey group to any other Dancey community other than descendants,  since I'm not sure, given the lack of records there are, how one might otherwise proceed as a starting point, other than descendants and DNA. I know you have done a Y DNA test, but I'm not sure if you've taken an autosomanl one.

 I have found, and would be happy to share the information, late 1600 parish records for Doddington Kent,  relating to Dancey marriages and baptisms and which appear to be the documentary evidence/explanation for several of my DNA matches. And 2 of my Irish Dancey cousins have several DNA matches to people who appear to descend from Danceys from the Stroud/Uley/Tormarton area of Gloucestershire.

Would you be able to do an autosomnal test if you haven't already, and share/pool whatever comes from that so we could make a start on trying to find the documentary trail as well? Otherwise I guess we just go on wondering about possible connections.

all the best

Roz

Answer 2

Hi Clive

 I've only just seen your response to my query. Basically I have fragmented bits of Danceys in Co Monaghan, & Co Meath in late 1600's (Francis Dancey/Dancy (used both spellings) Pockridge Dancy/Dancey (this name pops up several times). these Danceys were clearly part of the protestant ascendancy as they are linked to the Pockrich family of Co Monghan (a couple of  Pockriches were High Sheriffs of Co Monaghan) married in the Corry family in Co Monaghan (these definitely part of the Cromwellian settlement but from Scotland), and also married in the Barry family of Kilcarn Co Meath.

If you are interested I can send you better (but still scrappy) details, with dates/sources (basically sent on to me from a Canadian researcher whose father got some professional family history research done)

I've traced my known Dancey family line back to a Richard Dancey in Co Cavan (details on Wiki tree and can't remember the ID code) But given that i have a Pockridge in my line, there must be a direct connection to the earlier 17 C Pockridges, and those who emigrated to Canada.

all the best

Roz

Answer 3

Update on this

as more people take DA and upload to 3rd party websites, I'm finding that one or two of my related Dancey lines share  small DNA segment matches with those known to be descended form the English/Gloucestershire Danceys