Uploading non related trees

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I have a brick wall.  His name is Abraham Bale and it has been spelt Bayle, he was married twice.   Born in 1781 and died if I remember correctly, 1849, in Lewiston, Niagara.   I have searched everywhere online and have called Lewiston and will need to arrange a trip to NY State library or court houses etc... however, many folks have the same brick, and so, with so many of us I think we have something wrong.   Most likely the name.   So, I have done NUMEROUS  Bale, Bayle, Bayles, Bailey Bayless, etc.... many have started back and work forward.   I have go to the national archives, whatever I can find outside of Ancestry but it's all on Ancestry.   I am embarrassed by how many trees I have on Ancestry!  And I want to delete some, but so much work has gone into them and someone is surely going to use them.   I have uploaded one already.   There are some matches, and I will try to hook them up.  Should I and can I give these trees away?  How to you hand them over to someone?
asked in The Tree House by M Bale G2G6 (6k points)
edited by M Bale
With all the different surname spellings it looks like you should look into a One Name Study to see if others might have or in the future add him or family with the same first names but different spelling of the last name.
Yes, now that we have a Y dna from our line, I have us in a couple of the Bailey name studies and others.  The closest match we have found is from the Carolina's.  That's a surprise.  Just waiting to see.

We are also in the Beal name study.  On familytreedna

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Do you know where he was born, who his wives were? a name would help, I have just started and already I have run into names you don't have, and I am not sure where to go from here, Just when i think I may have him, then something else comes up,

Abraham T, Bailey, Abraham Loomis bailey, Bayles, Bailys, Belye,Bailey, Abraham Lewis Bailey, Abraham Beales,  Bailey.  Some were born 1781, 1782, 1784, 1780, I can't possible give you any information unless I can get more information. Thanks
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Wow Nancy, if you found him that fast I might drop over!   He was married twice, as he is buried with his wife and her stone says second wife of Abram Bale.   Her name was Nettie Stryker.   There are a few little hints.  One, I saw someone on the same census, with the same name from VT, rather than PA.   I have no doubt that many of the fam, especially Nettie and her fame were from PA, but I don't think ours was.  I also have seen the name spelt Bayle and Bayles.   Bayle to me would be Baylie Baylee, Bailey,      The family is fairly certain his middle name is a B and there  was a Abram Bartholemew, but that doesn't pan out either.   There are clues in his sons middle names, family tradition is they name their kids not only for family but people they liked or knew.  I just upload a Dr. William Bailey tree today and am waiting for it to become approved.  It's not my line, can't find a match but I work it hard.   I haven't found the link, but their are some names in there that stand out.   I hope it is approved so others can use it, I think there were only 11 matches out of the 400+ I uploaded.
Yes, I am not going to put up a name with out any info orphan them!  But the birth, death and location, and the names of the sources seem to be showing up.  If you would look at some of them, and let me know what you think I'd appreciate it!  Thanks
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Once you have uploaded the trees, you may orphan them.

But Please make sure that each of the people you orphan has sources (not other Ancestry trees or Ancestry indexes) to support the facts, and check the profile here to make sure that it has transferred neatly. This may take some time, but we already have plenty of unsourced profiles.

answered by Anne B G2G6 Pilot (993k points)
Okay, here is what I am seeing, learning.  I upload and see how many mistakes, so then I went back to my ancestry tree.  I changed all the dates to full months, which is NUTS for certain.   I deleted no date names.  So that means if Johny married Suzie, and she was "just" a wife and I didn't want to research her, for Wikitrees, I delete her.  That's a weird concept.   Also, you are right, using the name list on ancestry does show repeats, because if you delete a tree member, they and their clan are still hanging out in the back.... I leave them in for uploads, because if they have info, someone will use them.   What I am seeing is that the sources are listed, ancestry just doesn't show them, but I was told from a guy on ancestry, that he finds everything on Family Find, so that if my source says the census, it will tell exactly which one. That I don't need to worry about using anything he contributed, because he got it from here..  So I have to work on family find more.  

I would like to orphan some of these trees. I just uploaded the William Bailey Tree, a family of Judges and Ministers mostly from Mass, I deleted the ones from the 1600s.... including the Thomas, who was the first immigrant for that line.     I usually start back and move forward, after having done every darn family connection.   What I am looking for is all in the 1700's and early 1800s.  I have most everything else.  I have also gone back much further, when I was a newbie, and not checking sources.   I have to see it.  The index thing doesn't work for me.I like to look at the document, there are often errors in the indexes.  I online for books and archives.gov, etc...   Most of the individuals I have updated are from the 18th and 19th century, few 20th.  I have all he modern stuff I need, it's colony time.  So I am looking for how to orphan them.

To orphan them click on the "Privacy" tab at the top of the profile (same line as the "edit" tab. Scroll down to the big button that says

  REMOVE YOURSELF 

 

Or you can use the bulk trusted list removal tool  http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Special:TrustedListChanges 

Okay, I learned how to do that, but before I did, I went on FamilyFind and linked them to others.   So I haven't completely abandoned them.  But my sources from Ancestry are listed, so it tells where I got the  info.  I'm catching on.

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