I crossed refernce the two families and charles white is actually clement white that married caroline..he (yet again) changed his name..the marriage records for both women are clem white with the same birth day as well parents places of birth change sometimes though. Layfaette was listed as a canadian. Layfaette's name changed to Raymond and HE had a Robert.. there are so many coincidences between all the children of ole clement. He WAS the milkman by the way..lol So having two women isnt completely out of the question but I just can't be sure. this is making me nuts believe me!! I DO appreciate the searching you did. That was really nice of you to find those records for me!