GEDmatch now connects to your WikiTree family tree!

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Just found a bunch of new cousins at WikiTree connected to my gedmatches!

https://www.gedmatch.com/OneToMany.php
asked Jan 16 in WikiTree Tech by Maggie N. G2G6 Pilot (385,400 points)
retagged Jan 17 by Abby Glann
Maggie,

Can you explain a bit more?  How do you know that your matches on GEDMatch match on Wikitree?

Is there a new screen?  Yes - see below

(Sure I know I can work through the list one by one and check, but I have not seen anything that is automatic.)

Thank you.

No need for an answer - I found it - First I had to log on and then

Under

Tier 1 Utilities

These additional utilities are available to members of GEDmatch Tier 1.

'One-to-many' matches New Version!

Please note:  For FT DNA the "how to" video is incorrect on one point:  the narrator says to download the two zip files that are the 36 Build X-DNA and Autosomal DNA.  That is incorrect.  GEDMatch now requires that users upload their 36 Build ****Concatenated**** DNA.  

I posted a blog about this post today...thanks Maggie, Phillip, Doug, Peter, Rosemary, Chris, James, Michael and Anne!

Mags

At the risk of sounding completely ignorant, where is the Tier 1 section?

Dennis,

When you log on to GEDMatch scroll down the page there is a section labeled 

Tier 1 Utilities
These additional utilities are available to members of GEDmatch Tier 1.

I assume that it shows for everyone, but only those that are Tier 1, (pay $10.00 per month) can use them.

Thank you very much Phillip!

This is all great news.  This is what it says on the GEDmatch site.

WikiTree Links

If a matching kit on One-to-many also has a WikiTree.com GEDCOM (family tree) which has individual which has had a GEDmatch.com kit associated with it then a Wiki link will appear on the GED/Wiki column.

Clicking this link will open up WikiTree.com with this GEDCOM. One can then explore that GEDCOM for common ancestors to see how this person is connected to the person in associated with the original kit in the One-to-many tool.

Alycia , that's observant of you to notice. Many of these things need to be updated as the technology for them is changing all the time (-:
Phillip, I think it's $5.00 a month for Tier I section for USA users ? It's not a subscription. One can do it for one month at a time.
Philip,

It's $10 per month to access the Tier 1 utilities on GEDMatch.

10 Answers

+18 votes
Very cool indeed!
answered Jan 16 by Doug Lockwood G2G Astronaut (1,691,650 points)
+14 votes
This is great news!!

In the GEDmatch's new Tier 1 One-to-Many, I automatically see which of my matches have a WikiTree ID.  Clicking on that link displays their compact ancestral tree showing up to eight generations of ancestry.

Is there a way to know if someone in GEDmatch has a WikiTree ID (or not) if you are not a Tier 1 member?

My paternal aunt has over 65 relatives in GEDmatch who have WikiTree ID's.  Her GEDmatch ID is T527089

Many thanks, Peter
answered Jan 16 by Peter Roberts G2G6 Pilot (342,630 points)
edited Jan 16 by Peter Roberts
I can see your Aunt's WikiTree listings, Peter. It's in the Tier One section. If you have Tier One, you can use it. If not, I can get a listing to you on Tuesday.
If you have Tier One, you can put anyone's kit number in it to see what they have at WikiTree.
Yes, I'm a Tier 1 member and can view my aunt's matches and their links to their compact ancestral trees in WikiTree.
Peter humbly does not mention that he's the reason this came together.

Peter has tirelessly lobbied for GEDMatch-WikiTree connections for years. Finally, at the Houston FTDNA conference a few months ago, he made contact with GEDMatch's John Olson.

I am disappointed that the new One-to-Many with the WikiTree connections is only for Tier 1 members. It sounds like they haven't decided if or when it will be opened for non-paying members. Regardless, I know we will be doing more GEDMatch-WikiTree connections.
+17 votes
Wonderful!

It highlights a privacy problem however. A match to my cousin has the privacy set so that the family tree can't be seen. We need to encourage people who have entered GEDMATCH kit numbers to have their privacy set so that the family tree can be viewed. It's possible that they don't realise that this is needed for the DNA to be propagated up the ancestor line and down the descendant lines.
answered Jan 16 by Rosemary Jones G2G6 Pilot (211,050 points)
+4 votes
I just signed up but the one I wish to use, "One to Many Matches" isn't working. All the other links do work for me such as Relationship Tree, Lazarus, Triangulation, etc., which I probably won't use.

 

UPDATE:  Nevermind it showed up now.
answered Jan 17 by James Stratman G2G6 Mach 2 (28,320 points)
edited Jan 17 by James Stratman
It takes a couple of days for GEDmatch to incorporate a new user's DNA results with the rest of its database.
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How does GEDmatch obtain our WikiTree ID's?
answered Jan 17 by Michael Stills G2G6 Pilot (327,050 points)
Hi Michael.

We have been encouraging members to connect WikiTree IDs with GEDMatch IDs for a few years. When you enter a test, you can enter your GEDMatch ID.

Test data on WikiTree has always been public (even though your family connections or personal info may be private) so anyone could connect the dots. But to make it easy for GEDMatch we're giving them downloads.

Chris
Good to know,

So I just discovered that my Mom's GEDmatch ID was wrong on WikiTree.

From what you just explained, I presume it will be wrong on GEDmatch until the next download?
Correct.

We have 15,791 GEDMatch kit IDs connected to WikiTree IDs. Of those, GEDMatch was only able to validate 14,155. Your mother's was probably one of the 1,636 they tossed out.
How frequently are you sending updates to GEDmatch?
Hi Ann. We don't know yet. It's an easy thing on both sides, so it should be frequent. We're hoping to make it live at some point, i.e. when you enter or edit a GEDmatch ID here it immediately updates.

I'm having an issue seeing links to wikitree for kits I administrate on GEDmatch (see image of father John Michael and brother John Paul).

I have GEDmatch numbers entered for them on their wikitree profile pages since Jan. 23.  Is it simply a matter of waiting longer to see the wikitree link show up at a later date?

Thanks you.

Hi Zack, I don't see that your brother John Paul Daugherty, A293019, has a profile on WikiTree. I do find your father, John M. Daughtery, A099400, so am not sure why his listing on GEDmatch doesn't include the link to Wiki.
Your right, I thought I had added my brother. I just now did.  The screenshot example doesn't show my great aunt whom I have added to Wikitree but I have and it does not show her link either.
Zack, When I look at your profile on WikiTree the only close relatives I can see who have taken DNA tests are your father, John Daugherty-1250, and your grandmother, Louise Harvey-8075. I don't see a great aunt. Is she on WikiTree? Is her DNA test information on her profile?

I've also just noticed Chris Whitten's comment above, on January 18, that he doesn't know yet how often WikiTree updates will be sent to GEDmatch. It's entirely possible that it nothing has been sent to GEDmatch since the entries you made on January 23.
She is right here: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Daugherty-1271

And she is linked into the appropriate spot. She is my father's aunt on his father's side.  My great aunt.

It may just be a matter of waiting.
Now I see the problem. Her privacy level is 'private'. That means that only people on her trusted list can see her details. Please change her privacy level to 'private with public biography and family tree'. You just added her profile today, so any DNA test information you've added for her won't display on her profile or anyone else's until after the once-a-day update of DNA test information on WikiTree.
Okay, I didn't realize I had the privacy set so high on her.  Makes sense now.  Thank you.
GEDmatch just updated the connections yesterday. Are they fixed now, Zack?

We will soon have a regular updating system in place. Possibly daily, but at least weekly.
Yes, the one's I entered in Jan. are all up now in a new gedmatch one-to-many search...very cool stuff.

Thanks for all the help, was just wanting to make sure I had things squared away on my end for this to go through.
+4 votes
Is this something that will allow new gedcoms to demand merges with my finished profiles? I hope not. I don't want to have to constantly merge with stuff from ancestry dot com. Please explain.

Thanks!

Sharon
answered Jan 18 by Sharon Centanne G2G6 Pilot (120,450 points)
Sharon, when you upload a new gedcom, the gedcom matching program will show you the profiles that are already on WikiTree. You just skip the ones that are on there already and they will not be imported.
Thanks, Maggie! I never have uploaded gedcoms, so I am unfamiliar on how that works here. Thanks for letting me know!

Sharon
+3 votes
That's great, do I need to enter GEDmatch data.
answered Jan 24 by J F G2G2 (2,340 points)
You only need to follow GEDmatch's instructions to upload your auDNA results to GEDmatch and be a Tier 1 GEDmatch member.  Then add you GEDmatch ID to your DNA Tests page in WikiTree.  GEDmatch and WikiTree do the rest.
+1 vote

VIDEO when I use the function on GEDMATCH

https://youtu.be/ZhSAph_Zggc

I feel we should have for profiles in WikiTree have Project Database Error checks

  1. If a GEDMATCH profile has the wrong protection in WIkiTree
  2. If a profile with 2 GEDMATCH tested profiles has enough cM in common of those profiles to be a match
  3. If two GEDMATCH profiles on WIkiTree has more than 7cM and are not connected
  4. If we get better locations in WIkItree we could combine saying that in e.g. location Fläckebo (U) it looks like GEDMATCH Magnus Karlsteen, Magnus Sälgö and Barbro Maijgren could have a match


    Big pic
    1. Category for Fläckebo (U)
answered Feb 14 by Magnus Sälgö G2G6 Pilot (250,450 points)
+1 vote
This would be a great tool if not all my matches seems to be private profiles or guests members who just want to see the what is on WikiTree without adding any information about their own tree.

Could this be turned off on guest members? I'm truly disapointed of people doing this, they can see my contributions and probably copy that information without giving anything back.
answered Feb 14 by Maggie Andersson G2G6 Mach 3 (33,950 points)
You can see what is on WikiTree without being a guest member
I know that Magnus, some of my "new" relatives have been able to contact me that way through a google search that presented a common ancestor. But they already had the ancestors name to search for.

On Gedmatch I get 15 WikiTree links. I think 3 of them actually have trees available for me to look at. If I remember correctly there was 4 who actually put some effort in to add profiles but they have privacy red. The rest, about half of them just made a guest account to see their matches on WikiTree (I assume) without contributing to WikiTree.

I'm all for sharing, that's why I'm here on WikiTree but I'm disspointed of the ones who just want information without contributing anything at all. Hence my question.
@Maggie I cant see the problem if you are serious in genealogy the quality of most family trees on Wikitree are not good enough and just because you have a DNA match getting access to some of the other people's family tree doesn't make a big difference. On FTDNA.com I have 400 DNA matches with family trees and I have confirmed 1 person and maybe another person. One person I am connected to has shared so little DNA with me that she is not visable on FTDNA.com

As said I don't think you need a guest account. You get in Gedmatch the Wikitree I'd and then you can see the profile/tree
+3 votes
answered Mar 29 by Peter Roberts G2G6 Pilot (342,630 points)

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