son was born 25 years after mother died - not possible

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WikiTree profile: Merichion of Ewyas Ap Owian
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Well anonymous, if you are a WikiTree volunteer, maybe that should be one of your goals - to make the appropriate corrections and source.

 It seems you are just pointing out mistakes, which could just be typos etc as seen below:

Recent activity from 170.53.90.251

son was born 25 years after mother died - not possible

asked 27 minutes ago in Requests for Genealogy Help by anonymous

How could Gladys have married Cadfan, since he was born after she died?

asked 40 minutes ago in Requests for Genealogy Help by anonymous

the father and son were born and died about the same time????

asked 49 minutes ago in Requests for Genealogy Help by anonymous

this child was born after the only listed parent was deceased

asked 1 hour ago in Requests for Genealogy Help by anonymous

This person died before they were born??????

asked 2 hours ago in Requests for Genealogy Help by anonymous

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by Chris Hoyt G2G6 Pilot (867k points)
selected by Dorothy Barry

While I agree with the sentiment expressed by Chris I do feel it points out a major problem with WikiTree: We do want to attract collaborators with sound genealogical practices and we harp on about the need for good sourcing etc. but our baggage of old (pre-1500) profiles generated by imports of unsubstantiated internet trees with all their inconsistencies and mistakes may be one of the biggest obstacles to achieving this goal. May be we should give "anonymous" the benefit of the doubt and assume that he/she wants to test out what happens at this website when mistakes get pointed out before investing more time him/herself? I almost got turned off in the beginning when I saw some of these older profiles and I have to admit that I still cringe whenever I see Charlemagne (Carolingian-77) born and died at Aachen, Rheinland-Westfalen, Deutschland.

But its not like we don't already know about these errors, because we do:

http://wikitree.sdms.si/default.htm

And we have an active list of volunteers working on correcting them. We can always use more volunteers.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Project:Database_Errors

I don't think we have a clear idea yet what to change these locations to. The oldest description in the FamilySearch database when German is selected as language is Aachen, Aachen, Rhein, Preußen, Deutschland.

  • Deutschland (Germany) did not exist yet, the town was in the Fränkisches Reich (Regnum Francorum, Royaume des Francs, Kingdom of the Franks, Francia)
  • I suppose the second Aachen is supposed to denote a county. There is no county Aachen. Aachen is "kreisfrei" (does not belong to a county). In any case, counties would not have been in existence in the 8th or 9th century.
  • Rhein is supposed to be the Prussian province, it was created in 1822.
  • Preußen could at the earliest be referred to after 1525.
  • Rheinland-Westfalen is not a political entity, the Rheinland it is a region within Nordrhein-Westfalen, a state that was established in 1946.

And the question of the language: Latin was the official language of the court, the Franks spoke Old Frankish or Old Franconian. The language spoken by Charlemagne was probably the dialect that later developed into the Ripuarian Franconian dialect. (quoted in Frankish language: Keller, R.E. (1964). "The Language of the Franks". Bulletin of the John Rylands Library of Manchester. 47 (1): 101–122, esp. 122.  Chambers, W.W.; Wilkie, J.R. (1970). A short history of the German language. London: Methuen. p. 33.  McKitterick 2008, p. 318.)

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