Looking for more traces of Carl Julius Johnsson emigrating to USA

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Carl Julius and two of his brothers emigrated from Sweden (Helsingborg/Malmö) to USA. I have found a record of two of them on one of their trips to USA in 1908. (There is a note that this is not their first trip.)

I can't find any more traces of them, I've been searching with familysearch.org. They have a "bad" surname.

Any tips on other places to look, or does anyone know anything else?

/ Maria
WikiTree profile: Carl Johnsson
in Genealogy Help by Maria Lundholm G2G6 Pilot (126k points)
retagged by Ellen Smith
There are several men named John August Johnson, you would know best which one is Carl's brother:

John August Johnson
Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994
birth:
1833
Sweden
death:
11 November 1907
, Cook, Illinois, United States
burial:
14 November 1907
residence:
Chicago, Cook, Illinois

John August Johnson
Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994
birth:
1866
Sweden
death:
4 March 1908
, Cook, Illinois, United States
burial:
8 March 1908
residence:
Chicago, Cook, Illinois

John August Johnson
Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994
birth:
1866
Sweden
death:
4 March 1908
, Cook, Illinois, United States
burial:
8 March 1908
residence:
Chicago, Cook, Illinois

John August Johnson
Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994
birth:
22 September 1842
Sweden
death:
4 September 1910
, Cook, Illinois, United States
burial:
7 September 1910
residence:
2216 24th St., Chicago, Cook, Illinois

John August Johnson
Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994
birth:
21 January 1876
Sweden
death:
11 October 1914
, Cook, Illinois, United States
burial:
14 October 1914
residence:
2636 W. 23 St, Chicago, Cook, Illinois

John August Johnson
Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994
birth:
27 April 1858
Sweden
death:
19 November 1914
, Cook, Illinois, United States
burial:
22 November 1914
residence:
630 York St., Chicago, Cook, Illinois

John August Johnson
Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994
birth:
4 May 1882
, , Sweden
death:
5 February 1955
Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States
burial:
9 February 1955
Norwood Township, , Illinois
residence:
8315 Forest Preserve Drive, Chicago, Cook, Illinois

John August Johnson
Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994
birth:
27 April 1858
, , Sweden
death:
19 November 1914
Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States
burial:
22 November 1914
residence:
630 York Place, Chicago, Cook, Illinois

John August Johnson
Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994
birth:
24 February 1865
, , Sweden
death:
25 April 1922
Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States
burial:
27 April 1922
, , Illinois
residence:
6065 Caldwell Ave, Chicago, Cook, Illinois

John August Johnson
Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994
birth:
24 February 1865
, , Sweden
death:
25 April 1922
Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States
burial:
27 April 1922
, , Illinois
residence:
6065 Caldwell Ave, Chicago, Cook, Illinois

John August Johnson
Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994
birth:
24 February 1865
Sweden
death:
25 April 1922
, Cook, Illinois, United States
burial:
27 April 1922
residence:
6065 Caldwell Ave., Chicago, Cook, Illinois

John August Johnson
Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994
birth:
27 April 1858
Sweden
death:
19 November 1914
, Cook, Illinois, United States
burial:
22 November 1914
residence:
630 York Place Ward 23-2, Chicago, Cook, Illinois

John August Johnson
Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994
birth:
22 September 1842
Sweden
death:
4 September 1910
, Cook, Illinois, United States
burial:
7 September 1910
residence:
2316 - 24th St, 12 Ward, Chicago, Cook, Illinois

John August Johnson
Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994
birth:
21 January 1876
, , Sweden
death:
11 October 1914
Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States
burial:
14 October 1914
residence:
2636 W 23 St, Chicago, Cook, Illinois

John August Johnson
Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994
birth:
27 April 1858
, , Sweden
death:
19 November 1914
Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States
burial:
22 November 1914
Chicago, ,
residence:
630 York St, Chicago

John August Johnson
Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994
birth:
7 January 1868
, , Sweden
death:
4 September 1951
Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States
burial:
7 Sep
Boxholm, , Iowa
residence:
2725 Foster Ave, Chicago, Cook, Illinois

John August Johnson
Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994
birth:
17 September 1857
Sweden
death:
10 January 1921
, Cook, Illinois, United States
burial:
13 January 1921
residence:
4237 North Oakley Ave, 26th Ward, Chicago, Cook, Illinois

John August Johnson
Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994
birth:
17 September 1857
, , Sweden
death:
10 January 1921
Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States
burial:
13 January 1921
residence:
4237 No Oakley Ave, Chicago, Cook, Illinois

John August Johnson
Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994
birth:
21 March 1871
Kolmar, , Sweden
death:
18 May 1959
Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States
burial:
21 May
residence:
6600 S Ellis Ave, Chicago, Cook, Illinois

John August Johnson
Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994
birth:
11 July 1885
Hemyo, , Sweden
death:
15 December 1945
Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States
burial:
18 December 1945
Calumet, , Illinois
residence:
8146 Drexel Ave, Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Thanks for looking! It's not any of them, he's born in 1871 (and not from Kalmar, as the only one born in 1871).

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Johnsson-151

Perhaps he left Illinois.

5 Answers

+3 votes

Carl Julius Johnson

United States World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942

Name Carl Julius Johnson
Event Type Draft Registration
Event Date 1942
Event Place Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States
Residence Place Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Gender Male
Employer Carl Julius/Johnson
Birth Date 12 Apr 1878

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United States World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942

Affiliate Publication Number M2097
Affiliate Publication Title World War II Draft Cards (4th Registration) for the State of Illinois
Affiliate ARC Identifier 623284
Digital Folder Number 004134725
Image Number 00989

Citing this Record

"United States World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V1KQ-QZQ : 7 April 2016), Carl Julius Johnson, 1942; citing NARA microfilm publication M1936, M1937, M1939, M1951, M1962, M1964, M1986, M2090, and M2097 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).

by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.3m points)

Carl Julius Johnson

United States World War I Draft Registration Cards

Name Carl Julius Johnson
Event Type Draft Registration
Event Date 1917-1918
Event Place Chicago City no 50, Illinois, United States
Gender Male
Nationality United States
Birth Date 12 Apr 1878
Birthplace , ,

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United States World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918

Affiliate Publication Number M1509
Affiliate Publication Title World War I Selective Service System Draft Registration Cards
GS Film Number 1613569
Digital Folder Number 005248465
Image Number 04555

Citing this Record

"United States World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K6DD-5YF : 12 December 2014), Carl Julius Johnson, 1917-1918; citing Chicago City no 50, Illinois, United States, NARA microfilm publication M1509 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 1,613,569.

This is surely him, thank you very much!

I wonder what I did wrong in my searching, as I didn't find this.
I entered the information that you provided in your question at familysearch.org and the WWI and WWII draft information came up. The second one in 1942 in Chicago implied that he could have been living there at the time of the 1940 US Census. So, I entered Chicago as the location and selected residence years of 1910 to 1940. That resulted in the 1910 and 1940 census for Carl and his family. Did he marry twice, once to Emelia and then later to Olga, or is it the same spouse?
I have no idea if he married at all, as the family didn't know what happened to him. Wonderful to get some sources! In the draft record for WWI he states his brother John August Johnson as nearest relative, but location unknown. They seem to have lost contact. Thanks again!
I doubt that this is him in the 1910 census. His WWI Draft registration lists his nearest relative as his brother John (Johann) August Johnson & his occupation as a bartender. The person listed in the 1910 census is listed as a retail clothes salesman.
+1 vote

 

Carl J Johnson

United States Census, 1910

Name Carl J Johnson
Event Type Census
Event Date 1910
Event Place Chicago Ward 30, Cook, Illinois, United States
Gender Male
Age 32
Marital Status Married
Race White
Race (Original) White
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1878
Birthplace Sweden
Immigration Year 1900
Father's Birthplace Sweden
Mother's Birthplace Sweden
Sheet Letter A
Sheet Number 14

Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

Carl J Johnson Head M 32 Sweden
Emelia Johnson Wife F 29 Sweden
Stanley R Johnson Son M 0 Illinois

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United States Census, 1910

District ED 1320
Sheet Number and Letter 14A
Household ID 304
Affiliate Name The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number T624
Affiliate Film Number 276
GS Film Number 1374289
Digital Folder Number 004970787
Image Number 00889

Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1910," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MK84-RJV : accessed 2 February 2017), Carl J Johnson, Chicago Ward 30, Cook, Illinois, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 1320, sheet 14A, family 304, NARA microfilm publication T624 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1982), roll 276; FHL microfilm 1,374,289.

by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.3m points)
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Carl Johnson

United States Census, 1940

Name Carl Johnson
Event Type Census
Event Date 1940
Event Place Ward 17, Chicago, Chicago City, Cook, Illinois, United States
Gender Male
Age 62
Marital Status Married
Race (Original) White
Race White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birthplace Sweden
Birth Year (Estimated) 1878
Last Place of Residence Same House

Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

Carl Johnson Head M 62 Sweden
Olga Johnson Wife F 59 Sweden
Doris Johnson Daughter F 18 Illinois

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United States Census, 1940

District 103-1145
Family Number 233
Sheet Number and Letter 10A
Line Number 35
Affiliate Publication Number T627
Affiliate Film Number 955
Digital Folder Number 005459696
Image Number 00957

Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1940," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KWB7-5KY : accessed 2 February 2017), Carl Johnson, Ward 17, Chicago, Chicago City, Cook, Illinois, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 103-1145, sheet 10A, line 35, family 233, Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940, NARA digital publication T627. Records of the Bureau of the Census, 1790 - 2007, RG 29. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2012, roll 955.

by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.3m points)
This is probably not him, it says occupation carpenter (and previously he's been into bartending :) ), and looking closer at the name it is Carl R.
+1 vote
* ''SS Claim''
Name:    Carl Julius Johnson
SSN:    344189235
Birth Date:    12 Apr 1878
Birth Place:    Sweden
Claim Date:    18 May 1943
Type of Claim:    Life Claim
Notes:    12 Aug 1977: Name listed as CARL JULIUS JOHNSON
Source Information
Social Security Applications and Claims, 1936-2007.

I also found a very early record for him in Sweden & his naturalization record...all posted to his profile.
by Doug Lockwood G2G Astronaut (2.4m points)
I'm happily surprised with the amount of replies and how fast I'm getting them! :)

Could anyone explain what an SS Claim is?

SS stands for Social Security. The most common types of claims noted include: Original SSN (when the original application was submitted to obtain a SSN), Life Claim (when a claim was made for disability or retirement benefits), Death Claim (when a claim was made by a surviving family member for death or survivor benefits

 

 This link should explain the record  (this record is posted on Ancestry):

https://www.legalgenealogist.com/2015/07/28/getting-that-ssn/

Cool, so this is probably him wanting to retire.
+1 vote
You've gotten many great replies, but if you do not live in the Chicagoland area I wanted to make sure you and others were aware of local Swedish American resources:

http://library.northpark.edu/archives/collections/swedish-american-archives-greater-chicago
by Dina Grozev G2G6 Pilot (103k points)
Thanks for the link Dina!

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