Question of the Week: If you've taken a DNA test, has it revealed any surprises?

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Or should I say, any surprises you're comfortable sharing? :-)

My dad just got his results back, and he was surprised to find that he had more DNA from the British Isles than from Western Europe, specifically, Germany. We've always identified as being from the German immigrants who became known as "Pennsylvania Dutch."

It's going to be interesting applying his test info to his ancestors!

in The Tree House by Julie Ricketts G2G6 Pilot (486k points)
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My second cousin and I are not related. Of our over 1,000 matches each none are the same even. Our grandfather's were born at home to the same woman. So something happened with our grandparents or parents to make one of us not of the Willard line. Both of our father's are deceased so they can't test. My mom took the test so I know she is my mom.

Also my husband and I share .07%. Very distant.
That's one of those "oops". One of your other family members might know. It looks like there's a "secret" in the family. Whether or not grandpa knew

That info will be determined if the rest of the family knew. If you are the one who is related, your DNA would match the rest of the family, no problem finding out.

I have a similar case in my family, but everyone knew so I was able to track the line.
Yes. I'm of English/Scotch/Irish/German heritage... the typical white person in Canada. Apparently I have a long lost cousin living in Zimbabwe that is a match with me! I'm guessing who ever this person is, part of his or her family was from Europe before settling in Africa. Very cool!
I took a Y DNA test and also had a professional genealogist do some research to help me discover more clues about my paternal 2x great grandfather (John Short), died in Union County, NC in 1852-3 at 47 years old and I found out that he is not what his name is genetically. He is genetically connected to the Wests, Spears (Speirs, Speers). It has been determined that this happened due to several possibilities- illegitmate birth, adoption or some other unknown occurrence. This really blew me away. Anybody with those last names happen to have any family records? I know this is really a shot in the dark. ;-)
I had DNA maternal swab test done to prove to my son and his wife that I was indeed his birth mother. It was done on his end but i did receive the results. How and/or where do I give the result numbers to in order to find my descendants information?

Terrie
Terrie
Try a gedmatch.com account. It will widen your DNA matches to find your Ancestors. A FamilySearch.org  account could help you as well. Ancestors and Descendants.

Terrie, It sounds like you did a mtDNA test and not an atDNA test. Only atDNA tests can be uploaded to GedMatch. Who did you do your test through?

After 72 years I finally found my Father who died on his ship in 1944 during 'Operation Infatuate' 1 November 1944. No one would tell me who he was when I was growing up, not even his name but with Y-DNA I discovered his Surname and a lot of Detective work through the Royal Navy records uncovered the rest.

Never give up - one day you will succeed.
Yes. Dad always told me we were English. I agree, but DNA also revealed we are also Irish. A huge surprise!
After an extensive search we found the father, mother, brothers and sisters of Pascal Cook (b.1815) after we were contacted by another member of the Cook family as his DNA was matched with another "Cook cousin" from my line. She and I "met" after I posted the quest on Wikitree...we share great-grandparents through my father. Ain't technology wonderful?

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The 25% Italian that only I (out of all the family tested) got!  It seems that all the bits of Italian passed down on both sides of my family all accumulated within me.  I have discovered that DNA is a funny and unpredictable thing.
by Emma MacBeath G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
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I've tested myself with the three main companies (plus the Y and mt haplogroup tests from the Genographic Project years ago), as well as my parents and each of my grandparents. I've been able to cement many of my genealogical lines, and I've even found major leads and hints on some of my problematic brick wall lines (here's hoping even more of those walls will come down in the future), but there have been some surprises as well.

There have been a few cases where distant matches say they were adopted when I reach out to them, and I've been able to help a lot of them. One of them (a fourth cousin of my mother) I was even able to narrow down her biological grandfather to one of two brothers, and she was then able to find which one of them had a daughter that matches what she knew of her birth mother. Despite having asked before and received nothing, after she had the information, she went back to the county office and they confirmed that we were correct. She sent me homemade cinnamon rolls! :)

An even bigger surprise: one of the earliest people I got in contact with after my first autosomal DNA test (at 23andMe) turned out to be connected in an unforeseen way. We initially tried to figure out where we shared ancestry, but couldn't find anything that made much sense, especially since she was a fairly close match to my maternal grandmother. A few years later, at AncestryDNA, one of my closest matches was a woman whose tree looked familiar, and it was because I'd seen it before with the match at 23andMe. It turned out the Ancestry match was the 23 match's mother - it got me looking at that case again.

I looked more thoroughly and found that the mother's maternal grandmother was born about a year before her parents were married. I checked on FamilySearch and found a picture of the whole family, with the grandmother in question as a teenager, and her parents and younger siblings. She stood out like a sore thumb, and didn't look at all like her father or her brothers and sisters, so I suspected there might be something up, and looked into where she was born.

Long story short, I had a strong hunch that my 3rd great-grandfather, who was Norwegian-born, living in Utah, and worked as a traveling sheep shearer and Rawleigh salesman, was the grandmother's biological father, which would make the woman I initially talked to on 23andMe my mother's half-3rd cousin. They thought it made some sense, as some of the family members had evidently heard stories that the grandmother was illegitimate, and the DNA was showing high percentages of Scandinavian, which was puzzling to them. The grandmother was born in a town in Utah about 50 miles away from where my 3rd-great-grandfather's family lived. At the time the grandmother was born, my ancestor had already divorced his first wife, and was yet to marry his second (my 3rd great-grandmother).

We've since confirmed this is what happened by comparing to other descendants of my 3rd great-grandfather and his brother. Every single one of the tested people is a match so far. They also had many others on their side of the family tested, including three of the illegitimate grandmother's daughters. Even better, many of them turned out to be living in the same state and county I live in, and our families have had numerous reunions and get-togethers since discovering each other. It's been quite a trip! :)
by Andrew Colangeli G2G1 (1.1k points)
What a great story Andrew!  How wonderful to put the pieces together. I live in hope something like this will materialise for me relating to my paternal grandmothers father!  An eighth of my tree missing!
That's amazing, Andrew! And kudos to you for being so willing to help all of your cousins find their place in the family!
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A few things have surprised me with my autosomal. DNA test.

1. It's a very steep learning curve to work out how to work from the DNA test.
2. I'm related to a lot of Norwegian's within the fifth to eigth cousin group, but I have a very complete family tree with no Norwegian's in, so that's a big mystery.
3. I don't match to a number of cousins on one side of my tree that I expected to match with. The closest of which are third cousins 1x removed and now I'm confused as to whether this is normal or means there is a relatively recent non parental event on that line.
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I also have a lot of Norwiegan matches, but I am starting to think they are back from my Irish ancestry side, but further back than they look.  Many appear to be IBP matches.

Don't despair about not matching a 3C1R, you can be a genealogical cousin but not a genetic cousin  See this ISOOG chart for likelihood of matching http://isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_statistics
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I started out on my DNA journey to solve two mysteries, my paternal grandmothers father, and also my mothers paternal grandmothers father. Both have remained elusive.  The thing I am finding surprising is that there are a couple of other lines where I am getting loads of matches which confirm the line, but for many of my grandparents other lines - nothing!    Is it because of more NPEs or do we just not have enough descendants out there!!  I know this will be a lifelong journey to discover the answers to these questions, my goal is to have a full  'fan chart' that is 'dna confirmed'!  Is it possible ? I hope so!!
by Veronica Williams G2G6 Pilot (214k points)
Keep plugging away, Veronica!!

I was doing some matching yesterday, and based on some notes someone sent me over the weekend, I think we have a connection wrong in my paternal grandmother's branch. It's a significant one, too. I have a feeling all of my current connections are going to fall apart if this needs to be changed.

Oh well ... NEW COUSINS!!! :-D
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I have currently had my own tested along with my parents, a cousin has tested also. I am working on getting another couple of cousins and an Uncle tested.

Any big surprises? Several. According to my test, I have 38% Irish and 31% Western Europe and the same for Great Britain. I had absolutely nothing to support the Irish but I have since found some information that seems to support it.  The rest I already knew about and had documented.

The biggest surprise was a match to Senegal. Which supports some information one of my cousins shared with me about a brick wall ancestor. Based on that and a single reference to his mother being from TN, I am now planning to research the Melungeon communities of Eastern TN and SW VA and NW North Carolina.  

I have found some new cousins too thanks to Gedmatch.com. Very excited especially since they have information I don't have and I have info they didn't have.  The admixutres at Gedmatch.com were very interesting and actually supported my research into my Jamestown relatives.  Very cool.  Still have a lot of work to do.
by Sharon Ray G2G6 Mach 1 (13.8k points)
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Totally European, not a scrap from anywhere else, which is what I thought was probably the case.

For the rest I've been very disappointed.  The two people at the top of my list are people who I've been in touch with for about 15 years.  No-one else has answered my emails.  Except for one person, who shared my maiden name.  He was the third highest on my list, but his grandfather was adopted and it was his grandfather's adopted name!  So that got us nowhere because he hasn't done his tree, says he hasn't time, and isn't interested into looking into it.  I think he just wants to solve the puzzle of his grandfather's birth.

So I'm feeling a bit flat about DNA!  It's early days, I got my results in mid-December.  Maybe someone will show up.
by Christine Searle G2G6 Mach 4 (41.6k points)
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I haven't so far as i have yet to be convinced that it has any merits in doing so.
by Iain Cooke G2G6 Mach 1 (11.7k points)
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Mostly it was interesting that what I thought of as British was just as much Western European, Scandinavian and Iberian Peninsula. New England ancestors doesn't mean it is all British. But then the British aren't all British. I was surprised that none of the Irish branch showed up.

What actually surprised me was that I have matched over 150 people DNA and trees on Ancestry. Seems to confirm either the trees are right or we share the same errors. It correctly spotted my cousin and his niece. All those generations and not much hanky-panky?

I was disappointed to find nothing exotic, all European, and all of Europe, since my mother's side is Eastern Europe.
by Sue Hall G2G6 Pilot (168k points)
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One reason I took a DNA test was to confirm a story I had heard from my maternal side of the family about a German immigrant ancestor who had    performed some brave deed at sea and changed his name to Seay.  What I found was that we are more English than the current Englishman and a miniscule tip of the hat to  any German ancestry.

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I was asked about 2 years ago to join a mainly American based group doing a surname study on the Hore/Hoar/Hoare/Hord surname and related variations. I live in the UK and have traced my paternal name back to the 1500's in a village to the north of Gloucester. I was not aware at the time that I had any American ancestors. Since joining the group I have taken the yDNA str test to 111 markers, and Big Y, also the Family Finder test with FTDNA.

When the results came in I think we were all quite surprised, I had yDNA matches to other members in the group with the surname's Hord and Monroe, and 4 other surnames. Five people in our group have the surname Hord and are a match with me and each other, but they can only trace their ancestors back to the early 1700's in Essex County, Virginia. The three Monroe's in our group again have a match with me and can trace their Monroe line back to early 1800's Stafford County, Virginia. The other people in our group with matches we have since found out were either adopted or took on their mother's maiden name.

The Hoare/Hore family of mid 1600's Stafford County had a plantation next to Andrew Monroe and they intermarried with the Monroe's.

The following is recorded in the George Washington papers concerning a Thomas Hord, one of our ancestors:

1798 Letter from Alexander Spotswood to George Washington.
Mr HOARD (Thomas) - this gentleman left the army at the close of the war with the Rank of Captain - he was in BUFORDS defeat - and I have understood that many of the officers should Say had he commanded; the Tables would have been turned on TARLTON - who contrary to all good faith - so soon as the men had laid down there arms on certain stipulated Conditions, he let his horse loose on them; and began his usual masacre - when this gentleman with hia Company alone, flew to there arms - and fought most gallantly - until overpowered, he Taken prissoner, and covered with wounds the marks of which he carries now in his face. The letter goes on to say that Thomas Hord should be recommended for the rank of major. (I find all this absolutely fascinating).

What we are researching now is when and how the name changed, using traditional methods of research. Its been great to find I have at least 7 or 8 previously unknown relatives in America in our group.

It has certainly reinvigorated my research into the family name and I find the early colonial years of Virginia quite fascinating.

DNA analysis can be a great tool to use in conjunction with traditional methods of genealogy.

 

by Malcolm Hoare G2G6 Mach 1 (13.2k points)
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We've had three surprises so far:

1. A small percentage of sub-Saharan African DNA on my dad's side of the family. I have a guess as to what line it comes from, but that depends on my dad's on-paper paternal line being correct, which DNA testing has done nothing to confirm.

2. Dad and his younger brother have the same biological father. We'd considered it entirely possible that there was an NPE there, but if so, it happened twice with the same man! (Sadly, we were never able to test any of Dad's older siblings who were more likely to have the on-paper father as their biological father.)

3. A surprise close cousin. Not a big shock when we figured out who her parent was, as we knew the parent to have had a wild youth, but it did make me stop and think about how I might react if we found a surprise relative that turned out to be the child of someone I'd never have expected to have that secret.
by Sharon Casteel G2G6 Pilot (165k points)
What's "a small percentage"? The admixture results must be taken with a grain of salt. 23andme (and only 23andme) attributed a single tiny segment (< 0.5%) to certain of my family to sub-Saharan Africa that no other DNA analysis did, and when they redid their own updated analysis later it went away.

All our DNA is ultimately African in origin in one sense, so these types of attribution errors can happen.
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My 95 yo dad grew up in Hawaii, the grandson of German and Portuguese immigrants.  When I got his DNA results, they showed 46% of his DNA came from Ireland.  He was horrified and gasped, "I'm ADOPTED!"

I reminded him that his brother was a redhead (his mother's hair was distinctly auburn) and that the Romans tore through Europe, into the British Isles, and back, raping and pillaging, "so it's not surprising or impossible that your German and Portuguese ancestors might actually have some Irish in them.  He finally accepted that and that the <1% from N. Africa might be the Moorish influence in Portugal as well.

But it was a rough moment or two there!
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Surprise.  My 100 yr old father always told how he met his Pawnee great grandmother but his DNA does not bear that out. No Native American.
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My Y DNA test results did not surprise me. Over 500 posts on ancestry state that my ancestor John Baucom was the son of Nichols Baucom who both lived in North Carolina. The author of a Baucoms in the US  book made that assumption. My Y DNA project proved that they were NO kin. I was not surprised because not one decedent of John's  eleven children named a child Nicholas.

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by Jim Baucom G2G6 (6.1k points)
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I always thought that according to my family tree, and the heritage of my great-grandparents, that I should be 25% Swedish, 25% English and 50% German. I was in for alot of surprises through my 23andMe DNA test. I only had about 12% British/Irish and 17% German/French and 18% Scandanavian and 1.9% Finnish (!). What I thought was German heritage was categorized as broadly northwest European and European with 9% Eastern European (which was a surprise). I also had some very surprising trace ethnicities: Iberian, Southern European, North African, Ashkenazi Jewish and South Asian! I need to do alot more work on the branches of my family tree that seem to be dead-ends for now! I will soon be taking the My Heritage DNA test and so I am looking forward to comparing the two results.
by Lynette Nibbe G2G Crew (880 points)
+13 votes
My husband and I have both added our DNA to gedmatch. We were very surprised to find that although we are not related there are people on his list who are related to people on my list.One person on our lists has a match on his X chromosome and a match with my au DNA. Such a small world !
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One of the more interesting things coming out of working with DNA is just how closely we are all related.  We are so used to thinking in terms of lineages and lines, and DNA is telling us people lived in networks and communities.  I'm starting to look at people I know a bit differently -- are they maybe "cousins" after all?
+11 votes

I was shocked to find that I am 77% BRITISH! Then 16% Irish, and then just bits and pieces here and there.  I thought I would be more of a mutt (no French??), if anything have those figures reversed. My grandmother had told us all that her grandmother spoke with such a thick, Irish brogue that no one could understand her - not true! Thus far in my research, we have to go back to the court of Henry VIII to find Irish ancestors. 

The typical native of Great Britain is genetically only 60% British. I think this should qualify me for British citizenship. I'm ready to pack!

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Yes, it has revealed some Scandinavian connection which so far I couldn't identify in my paper trail and my extensive family.

I was only aware of German and Italian heritage, yet the link to Scandinavia is unclear. One trail is going to the General von Krogh who once occupied Germany (more precisely, only Schleswig-Holstein) and it might be from that time. I have a Scandinavian DNA cousin (actually two siblings) who's ancestor has worked at the General's family. But I have no one in my family tree that goes into the Northern part of Germany, so it remains a mystery for now.

The other surprise is a lead to several DNA cousins (BTW, all of these are triangulated) from England, who tell me that all their ancestors are British and quite frankly they aren't very helpful and probably don't want any connection with the "bloody Krauts" (I guess as a German I'm allowed to use those words to describe myself).

So that one is a DNA mystery as well but due to the limited time I haven't really started exploring where the link might be from (there was some trade with the British along the rivers going back to 1700).
by Andreas West G2G6 Mach 7 (75.4k points)
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An autosomal test by a stranger matched myself, a first cousin, a second cousin, and a non-match with a third cousin which led to a spirited communication between all parties.   The non-match pinpointed the direction as to which branch to review further and a secondary Y-DNA test confirmed an unknown 1/2 brother to my second cousin.

Subsequent digging has found the name and other details of the mother of my second cousin's 1/2 brother.  His birth certificate was located and it gives his true biological father's name.  The two families have been in direct discussion and exchange of family stories and photos.

So my surprise was finding a new 2nd cousin and now being able to add him and his children to our family history.
by William Harvey G2G6 Mach 1 (11.1k points)
+10 votes
I talked my two brothers into taking the AuDNA test because I knew that we get only 50% from each parent. So I thought by combining the three of us, that it would give a truer result.  Turns out that I'm more closely related (DNA-wise) to my younger brother than to my twin!

Also since we are mostly English/Irish/European, I thought I would most likely test as R-M269 (Most common for Europeans) on the Y-DNA test.  Imagine my surprise when the test cam back I-M253.... Strongly associated with Scandinavians.  I can't believe I actually have Viking roots!
by Ken Parman G2G6 Pilot (119k points)

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