Fourth Cousin 20.4 cM has Prewitt, Ulrich and maybe 3rd Stutsman Match

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At this persons Prewitt grandparent, if you take her line to Henry Prewitt 1654-1722 and Rebecca Ann Dobbs 1654-1748 I match at Prewitt. If you take this cousins same Prewitt grandparent and go down her grandmother's line to 3rd great grandparents, I match at Stephen Ulrich 1710-1785 and whoever his wife is could be Elizabeth Waggoner? At the third grandparents the line parts going to Ulrich and the other line goes to Stutsman. I am looking at Stutsman line now. I think this is so interesting. I am loading it to my tree to see what ancestry.com says how we are related on the tree without the DNA. My Prewitt line is my maternal  line and my Ulrich and Stutsman line is paternal.

I am hoping I attract some Ulrich or Stutsman maybe Prewitt lines to compare DNA with and trees.
in The Tree House by April Rarick G2G6 (8.3k points)
edited by April Rarick
Found two matches from same account we do not share the same DNA segment, but same ancestors. Andreas Meixel, grandson Joseph Mikesell married Catherine Cripe 1776-1850 On this line ancestry says we are 6th cousins 1X removed with a 6.1cM and 6.0 cM. Now their same line has the Elizabeth Ulrich 1723 who married Jacob Cripe. My Mikesell line is a different part of the tree then the Ulrich, Greib line their's is the same line. When I look at that nice CM diagram it says at 5th and 6th cousins I should have 3.32CM to 1.66. I might have to see if the Greib Ulrich line is closer then this match. The Ulrich and Greib were further away, but at my 2nd great grandfather these lines meet at my 2nd great grandfather.
If most people used 6 to 1.6 cM unphased segments to confirm ancestry they would mostly be wrong and we would could easily confirm with DNA ancestral lines which were wrong.  See https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/199470/are-you-using-audna-segments-which-are-less-than-7-cm?show=245672

Sincerely, Peter
Thanks this group is either chromosome 10 and chromosome 18. I can't confirm anything yet, just checking each line. I will be checking lines that are marrying in, to make sure they are not also related to me. I found a distant name Hummel last night. I'm just checking my lines since I can't use records yet on first great grandparents that missing other then a name, and a second  great grandfather line. I got close to my 2nd great grandfather line by DNA. I am hoping one line on 2nd great grandfather, is not a double relative anywhere else, that I can pinpoint it. If I can find matches far away, I try and bring that line closer with closer matches. Without paper trail, and without DNA surname names, I skip to the end and work backwards. If I skip I might be able to find the trail where there is more information. Some lines have nothing on that generation. Example, I have 7th great aunt Mary Mathews that married John Franklin Webb whose mother is Mary Boone to the Webb. I kept getting Boone matches, I wanted to know why. Two of them are marriages from my paternal line into the Boone family. There was a will I saw that my Mathews line had land joining Squire Boone. one of the George Boone's was a witness. Once I find the area my family lived and time period I can get closer by finding records, then the triangulated matches. It gets frustrating that my dads first cousin on her different line is also related to my dads other line. I haven't found one of her siblings matching like that yet. So I would like to know where they match even distantly. When I find a distant match, I start seeing that area with other matches I have from same area. I do hope DNA will have more breakthroughs in the future. Better tools. Correction Mary Coles who married Cherrington after her first husband Robert Mathews  died her grandchild Josiah Cherrington 1797-1858 married into my Fillmore line, this is my father's paternal  line same as the Mathews line. That area in Woodford, Kentucky,  My father's maternal line lived there, and also my mother's maternal line. So when I come across Woodford Kentucky I have to be very very extra careful with any DNA matches.

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If you are doing DNA, please make your direct ancestors' profiles privacy have public family tree at the least.  Right now, both your father and mother are locked down.  This makes it very difficult for others to collaborate with you.
by William Foster G2G6 Pilot (108k points)
Thank you!, I thought I already did that. I thought it was frustrating when I was looking at other trees like that so I checked my before. I noticed on my grandmother's level hers can be public, I didn't notice that on my other grandparents. I will keep an eye on the privacy levels to make sure they do not change.

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