How do I change a profile with birth last name "Unknown" to the known name?

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I know I did it before, but can't remember how to change an Unknown Last Name at birth to the Known Last Name at birth...

I found the missing info at the following location:

Ancestry.com. ''Connecticut, Town Marriage Records, pre-1870 (Barbour Collection)'' [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006.
Original data: White, Lorraine Cook, ed. The Barbour Collection of Connecticut Town Vital Records. Vol. 1-55. Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1994-2002. Viewable with paid subscription: http://bit.ly/2lB5Ytx

This profile does not have a profile manager and I'm not looking to adopt it, but it is attached to a profile that I'm helping a cousin and the Wheeler-One-Name Study with.
WikiTree profile: Abigail Wheeler
in The Tree House by T Counce G2G6 Mach 6 (63.2k points)
retagged by Abby Glann

This is a comment about your tiny URL only. Not important for your actual question :)

I like that you used a tiny URL (and I liked more, that you know how to make a tinytm URL :) ). Its much easier on the eyes.

I personally don't care for them, but only because I don't know where they lead, until after you click on them, and I don't like to click on unknown links. :)

But you could shorten the original URL even further, by removing the backurl reference before turning it into a tiny URL.

http://interactive.ancestry.com/1062/VBMDUSACT1634_0008-0325?pid=537995&backurl=http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3Di7g-695448%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26gss%3Dangs-g%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26msT%3D1%26gsfn%3DSamuel%26gsfn_x%3D1%26gsln%3DWheeler%26gsln_x%3D0%26MSAV%3D1%26mssng%3DAbigail%26_83004003-n_xcl%3Df%26cp%3D0%26catbucket%3Drstp%26uidh%3Di7g%26pcat%3DROOT_CATEGORY%26h%3D537995%26recoff%3D7%25208%252019%252020%252021%252022%252039%252040%252051%252052%26dbid%3D1062%26indiv%3D1%26ml_rpos%3D3&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=i7g-695448&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true

You actually only need the very first part ( http://interactive.ancestry.com/1062/VBMDUSACT1634_0008-0325?pid=537995 ) in order to link to the image. (but without the backurl reference, the interactive image no longer has the "back arrow" button to get back to the data record itself).

But, I find the backurl much more interesting, in this case. It decodes to another huge mess (because it actually includes your original search criteria), but it points to the indexed record (rather than the image), which I find quite a bit more useful in a couple of ways:

  1. It contains all the important indexed data: names, dates and links to both the linked data (spouse) and links to the image, and citation.
  2. And by clicking on the linked data to the spouse (and back), you can cleanup/shorten the URL even further (removing the earlier search criteria mess): http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&r=an&db=BarbourCTMar&indiv=try&h=537995

And now we can see that the "h=xxxxxx" is the person index number for the person of record -- in this case, Samuel Wheeler.

But for Abigail Wheeler's profile, you should probably use her record id instead: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&r=an&db=BarbourCTMar&indiv=try&h=537906 (which actually links to a different image than the one you originally linked -- her record of her marriage to Samuel, instead of his record to his marriage to her)

 

Anyway... none of this is all that important, but I hope it might be helpful to someone.

normally I've been using either google's url shortener or (more recently) the bitly.url shortener...just discovered the the way to get the shorter url (like about 30 minutes ago)...never to old to learn something new, as my grandmother use to say :)
Actually, shorteners are not recommended. Dennis' Ancestry trick is, though :-)
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Sources#Web_page

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I'm pretty sure you can only change the LNAB if you are on the Trusted List or a PM. (see Correcting Last Name at Birth ).  So it will have to be adopted in order to change the name.

by John Bentley G2G6 Mach 2 (22.1k points)
selected by Dennis Wheeler

Being on the Trusted List is not enough. Only a Profile Manager can change the Last Name at Birth.

You can un-adopt the profile after you've completed your edits.

Thank you
@Dennis: There may be cases (profiles with higher degrees of privacy) where you have to be a PM to change the LNAB. For open white and public green profiles it is enough to be on the t-list.

I know this because I have done this hundreds of times since the end of September 2016 in the course of correcting LNABs of Swedish women who should have a -dotter name rather than a -son name. The routine is: ask for t-list access, get it, change the LNAB and get off the t-list again. I am never a manager in these cases, where there is a PM. The matter is different with orphaned profiles, there it's adopt--change--re-orphan.
@Eva, you're correct. I've completely mis-remembered having done that myself. Thanks.

Ah, the mysteries of human memory!

I don't know how many times I have found myself researching a branch of my kinship network as from scratch - and when I'm well into it, realizing that I have been there before... now, which file was that in?

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