Is there a way to generate a list of PGM profiles that contain "Disputed Origin"?

Question

Ales,

Is it possible to generate a list of profiles where

{{pgm}} or {{PGM}} or {{Puritan Great Migration}} exists on the page

AND

"== Disputed Origins =="

also exists on the page?

This would generate a nice to do list for a piece of maintenance work that the PGM project wants to take on.

Thanks.

Comments

(I tried using Google for this with limited success.)

Answer 1

On Wikitree, searching for {{pgm}} or {{PGM}} or {{Puritan Great Migration}} is easy. it is 3000 and 500 of them.

http://wikitree.sdms.si/function/WTWebProfileSearch/Profiles.htm?Query=Puritan+Great+Migration&MaxProfiles=5000&SortOrder=Default&PageSize=100

http://wikitree.sdms.si/function/WTWebProfileSearch/Profiles.htm?Query=pgm&MaxProfiles=5000&SortOrder=Default&PageSize=100

You can even search to include other templates or categories or location or name. I didn't decide to add search by captions for now.

Is this list one time thing or do you wish to search it each week? If it is one time thing, I can prepare you a list.

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There are templates uncertain_existence And Deprecated one (Questionable) with a few thousand each, but there is maybe 10 profiles with both pgm and Questionable

http://wikitree.sdms.si/function/WTWebProfileSearch/Profiles.htm?Query=PGM+Questionable&MaxProfiles=5000&SortOrder=Default&PageSize=10

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 How do you change the SortOrder, to, for example, Birth Year?  

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Has anyone told you lately that they love you? ;-)

Thank you, Ales.

This is definitely not a weekly need. This is at the moment a one-time run that we need.

I could imagine in the future a related need (slightly adjusted) to be run, say every six months.

But a one time list now would be trememdously helpful. Our Google searchj efforts only found about 100 such profiles.

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Vic, 

Start on Wikitree+ http://wikitree.sdms.si Select Search / All wikitree on the left, and there you can define also sort order.

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Thanks.

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Done. It is 213 of them.

Abbott-297

Adams-3566

Alcock-84

Alger-93

Allen-20

Andrews-126

Andrews-749

Archer-914

Arnold-445

Bachiler-74

Baker-496

Balch-6

Ball-192

Barnard-111

Barnes-775

Barron-54

Bartlett-1867

Bearse-3

Bessey-8

Best-11

Blodgett-23

Bowen-480

Bowerman-14

Brewer-224

Bridge-134

Bridgham-321

Briggs-397

Brockett-53

Brooks-181

Browne-27

Bunker-44

Burbank-18

Burgess-548

Burley-561

Butterfield-109

Carman-163

Chaffe-10

Chase-113

Chase-124

Chase-7

Clark-13013

Clark-1851

Clark-4489

Cobb-37

Cogan-17

Coggins-2

Coleman-44

Conley-137

Copp-62

De Lannoy-16

Dewey-54

Dimmock-23

Doane-11

Doty-42

Everett-1042

Fairbanks-141

Farmer-55

Fernald-11

Ford-41

Friend-96

Frost-824

Gage-159

Gardiner-38

Gay-88

Gaylord-8

Getchell-45

Giles-801

Gilman-115

Gilman-2

Gridley-50

Griggs-128

Hall-2408

Hammond-355

Harding-26

Hardy-57

Harlow-20

Harrington-100

Hart-69

Harvey-1871

Haseltine-82

Hayden-160

Hayward-270

Hicks-240

Hicks-27

Hildreth-82

Hitchcock-43

Hobart-14

Hobart-61

Howland-76

Hoyt-29

Hubbard-88

Huckstep-2

Ives-23

Jacob-2

Jeggles-3

Johnson-2898

Johnson-30339

Johnson-4387

Jordan-954

Kelsey-7

Kettell-12

Keyes-29

Kimball-60

Kingsbury-35

Knopp-153

Lamb-322

Langford-1288

Langstaff-59

Lee-959

Leverich-15

Lord-408

Luff-53

Mallory-24

Mann-94

Martin-1109

Masters-334

Mead-99

Millett-106

Miner-637

Moores-7

Morrill-155

Morris-686

Moulton-32

Newberry-53

Nurse-4

Palgrave-4

Palmer-345

Palmer-70

Peck-220

Phippen-2

Pierce-481

Priest-39

Reed-481

Rice-1722

Rice-52

Ring-24

Rogers-249

Rowley-8

Royce-35

Sabin-13

Sample-260

Sawtell-28

Sears-1711

Sedley-4

Shaw-84

Simmons-1037

Skiffe-9

Smalley-2

Smith-1852

Smith-3423

Smith-40488

Smith-6919

Spofford-16

Standish-112

Stocking-2

Stone-1398

Stone-588

Swift-95

Symons-563

Tabor-527

Taylor-287

Taylor-642

Train-76

Treadwell-11

Tucker-757

Twining-6

Unknown-104136

UNKNOWN-120451

UNKNOWN-135330

Unknown-137651

UNKNOWN-18758

Unknown-194904

Unknown-197698

Unknown-198138

Unknown-199577

Unknown-203516

Unknown-207892

Unknown-210558

Unknown-219655

Unknown-220724

Unknown-221192

Unknown-221279

UNKNOWN-239647

Unknown-245667

Unknown-248038

Unknown-248859

Unknown-252261

Unknown-252553

Unknown-256501

Unknown-257391

UNKNOWN-25791

Unknown-275919

UNKNOWN-28295

Unknown-299907

Unknown-300803

Unknown-325459

Unknown-346517

UNKNOWN-45444

UNKNOWN-50305

Walker-376

Wallen-2

Ward-1033

Warren-1479

Waterbury-103

Weekes-45

Welles-30

Whelden-3

White-141

Whiting-62

Wilcox-462

Wilcox-484

Winn-92

Winsley-3

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Thank you.

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Um.... (as I start working with this list...)

Anyway to get it in table format with Profile Manager(s) (e.g., Smith-12345) included?

(Sorry I didn't think of that before...)

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I sent you Excel file by eMail.

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Thank you, Ales!

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(Actually, Aleš, I never received an email from you.)

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I sent it to Yahoo email.

I sent it again to gmail email.

Answer 2

The profiles WikiTree has that are also mapped to WikiData can be searched rather good

See Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P2949

We have

Accepted	Type	Usage
Yes	human (Q5)	32677
Yes	Norse human (Q24451723)	14
Yes	Catholic saint (Q3464126)	5
No	fictional human (Q15632617)	4
Yes	mononymous person (Q2985549)	4
Yes	human biblical character (Q20643955)	2
Yes	outlaw (Q254508)	2
Yes	Varangian human (Q24533253)	1
Yes	child (Q7569)	1
No	mythological king (Q6949213)	1
Yes	saint (Q43115)	1
Yes	whistleblower (Q26102)	1
Yes	godfather (Q1034774)	1
No	conjoined twins (Q216866)	1
Yes	child prodigy (Q205178)	1
Yes	war criminal (Q15966439)	1
Yes	mutineer (Q15962734)	1

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Classified as non human

• Piast the Wheelwright (Q353255): fictional human (Q15632617)
  • WikiTree Polanie-1
• Daisy and Violet Hilton (Q1157703): conjoined twins (Q216866)
  • WIkiTree Skinner-3545
• Eudaf Hen (Q1320730): fictional human (Q15632617)
  • WikiTree Hen-5
• Rzepicha (Q2575747): fictional human (Q15632617)
  • WikiTree Polanie-4
• Eadgils (Q2608009): mythological king (Q6949213)
  • WikiTree Ottarsson-23
• Chościsko (Q2659818): fictional human (Q15632617)
  • WikiTree Of_Poland-38

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Sorry, not understanding, Magnus. How does this help me with my request?

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I miss understood the scope... most of the profile you research are not in Wikipedia/Wikidata ==> you cant use Wikidata to generate reports...

Answer 3

Create a template and/or a Category so that you can easier find them inside WikiTree if you cant find them using WikiData

Answer 4

Maybe a Google search "Disputed Origins” site:Wikitree.com/wiki PGM gives about 231 profiles out of Puritan Great Migration ‎(3,563 members)

Profiles with PGM template = +2200

Problem with WIkiTree is the lack of Report generator saying give me all profiles with category x and Template y and not zzz. If you should do more advanced genealogy then creating on the fly reports/maps/timelines are important 

Answer 5

Jillaine, I got a really good list of PGM profiles that have "Disputed Origins" as the first subsection by searching Google for:

site:Wikitree.com "puritan great migration" "1 disputed origins"

I have my search preferences set to display 100 matches, which makes it a lot easier to work with the results.

It doesn't work to search for the template code {{}}.  Google looks at the public page, not the source code.

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Why "1 disputed origins" ?

I get the rest.

When i did a variation of this, i got a lot of g2g results that I didn't want.

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The other reason I want a report, is so that I can copy/paste it into a google spreadsheet that the project can work on. Google results don't easily parse into a spreadsheet.

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AND... your search phrase worked FAR better than my earlier efforts. Thanks!

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I figured out the "1 Disputed Origins" -- it's on the "table of contents" that way.

-- Palm to forehead.

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"1 disputed origins" returns only items that have Disputed Origins as the first item in the table of contents. When I searched without the "1", I got a lot of G2G hits, but I noticed that the search results for profiles included the string "1 disputed origins".

As for the spreadsheet, I don't know a good way to create that with Google Search results, but I do know that a person can open a search results page and work one-by-one through the results links on the page. Not the same as a spreadsheet, but if you are adding a category or a template to every profile on a list, it works!

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Ah, but you can save a Google results list to another format. For example, copy the text of the page into a word-processing format. The full URLs display in the results list -- for example, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Balch-6 is the first result, and it is possible to click on those URLs in a normal word processor format -- but I'm not sure about the Google Docs document format.

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site:wikitree.com/wiki

will give profiles 

using just site:Wikitree.com then you also get G2G

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Thanks both of you!