Wintertons from Norfolk and Dunstans from Cornwall who emigrated to South Africa in the late 1800's

Question

My grand parents (Winterton) came from Norfolk and (Dunstan) from Cornwall and were married in Cape Town in the 1920's. I cannot progress any further tracing my great grandparents and would appreciate any leads on these two names.

I am new to genealogy and have made some progress on the matriarchal side thanks to Toni Andrews. I am hoping that someone could give me some pointers and advice on how to progress.

I am sceptical of the genealogy sites that offer free trials in exchange for credit card details as the ZAR is undervalued and could result in an expensive exercise for me.

Thanking all in anticipation.

Kind regards

Steve Winterton (wikitree id = winterton-81).

Comments

Their first names would be helpful.

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Thanks Frank,

I made the assumption that anyone seeking to help would look at my wikitree profile winterton-81. My bad.

John Edward Martin Winterton married to Maud Frances Kelsey

Percival Lee Dunstan married to Lilian  Dorothea Capes.

Regards

Steve Winterton

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Steve ~

I couldn't find anything on them at FamilySearch.org or Ancestry.com except this record on Ancestry with a more specific death date for John Winterton.  It states there is a will which you may or may not already have.  But I doubt getting a look at it would offer any info on his parents.

I am not familiar with the locations, so I have no advice on how to move forward.  Except I wouldn't spend any money on Ancestry for the purpose of finding info on those ancestors.  

Perhaps someone will come along with an answer for you.

Good luck!

Name:	John Edward Martin Winterton
Death Date:	30 Sep 1970
High Court:	Western Cape High Court
High Court Provincial Division:	Cape Town, The Western Cape, South Africa
Estate Number:	5435/1970
Will:	YES
Customary Law:	NO
Spouse:	Maud Frances (830/1976) Winterton

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Thank you Mary,

I have also searched Family search and retrieved his wedding certificate and death notice. I need to try and find his parents and then I am sure I will be able to trace more of the Wintertons. Same with Percival Dunstan.

Thanks again for your interest and reply.

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You are welcome!  Also, I can't tell exactly what type of uniform he is wearing in the photo.  But if you know what it is.  Perhaps it could be a clue that might lead to some type of employment records.

Just a thought.

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When he married Maud he was a fireman for the South African Railways.

I take it to mean he shovelled coal into the locomotive boiler. The uniform was that of a tram/bus conductor in Cape Town in his later years

Percival Dunstan worked in the Post Office in Cape Town.

Regards

Steve

Answer 1

Percival Lee Dunstan's birth was registered in Redruth, Cornwall (GRO Birth Index Redruth Vol. 5c, Page 204 q March 1896) .

Percival in the 1901 England Census is found living in Fulham, London with parents & sibling. The family have the surname listed as Dunston. His father is listed as born in Cornwall whilst mother, Ada was born South Africa!

Name:    Percival Dunston
Age:    4
Estimated birth year:    abt 1897
Relation to Head:    Son
Gender:    Male
Father:    John Dunston
Mother:    Ada Dunston
Birth Place:    Camborne, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish:    Fulham
Search Photos:    Search for 'Fulham' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish:    St John
County/Island:    London
Country:    England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district:    Fulham
Sub-registration district:    North East Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel:    10
Neighbors:    View others on page
Piece:    60
Folio:    122
Page Number:    50
Household schedule number:    388
Household Members:    
Name    Age
John Dunston    41
Ada Dunston    35
Thomas Dunston    8
Emma Dunston    6
Percival Dunston    4
William Dunston    1

Comments

This looks promising Ron. Thank you. Percival Lee Dunstan named his daughter Ada and although his sons name was Edward  he was always known as John by the family. I always called him uncle Johnny.

Thank you very much for this. May I enquire as to what web page did you find this detail?

Regards

Steve

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This Census above was listed in Ancestry UK. The same Census, with the correct spelling of the surname is from familysearch.org (free)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X94K-2TH

Answer 2

 

Percival Lee Dunstan

England and Wales Birth Registration Index

Name	Percival Lee Dunstan
Event Type	Birth Registration
Registration Quarter	Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year	1896
Registration District	Redruth
County	Cornwall
Event Place	Redruth, Cornwall, England
Volume	5C
Page	204
Line Number	312

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England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008

Citing this Record

"England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2FQV-H1L : 1 October 2014), Percival Lee Dunstan, 1896; from "England & Wales Births, 1837-2006," database, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Birth Registration, Redruth, Cornwall, England, citing General Register Office, Southport, England.

Comments

I've almost always been unsuccessful finding the right person in South Africa, in spite of taking the time and effort to try. .

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Thanks Frank,

I have already found that record for Percival Dunstan and entered into my wikitree profile, I am trying to find my great grand parents. I appreciate you interest and replies. It appears that the connection between South Africa and the UK is rather difficult to crack

Regards

Steve

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Did not find birth record for John Edward Martin Winterton in Norfolk and I have a particular interest in Norfolk as several of my lines trace back to there in the 1500's - 1700's.

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The Norfolk connection is rather interesting in the Winterton and Dunstan line. I remember John saying he came from Norfolk and both the Winterton and Dunstans lived in Norfolk Road, Observatory, Cape Town for decades. I lived in Norfolk Road for the first 6 years of my life. I am not sure if this is coincidence or whether there was some SA/UK government assistance. Observatory was a bastion for all things UK and there were a few English churches there as well.

Regards

Steve