Edward III Project - Gateway ancestor - I think I have one

+5 votes
I believe my Gateway ancestor is Richard Saltonstall-27.


The relationship trail says our common ancestor is Nicholas Savile-3.




Mary Jane (Chapman-7850) Aldrich   https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Chapman-7850

James Chapman-7899 https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Chapman-7899

Rufus Putnam Chapman-7902  https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Chapman-7902

Levi Chapman-4070 https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Chapman-4070

Elizabeth (Hull-2529) Chapman https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hull-2529

Sibylla (Coe-1915) Hull https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Coe-1915

John Coe-441 https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Coe-441

John Coe-78 https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Coe-78

Hannah (Mitchell-309) Coe  -  She is PGM https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Mitchell-309

Matthew Mitchell-1313  -  He is PGM https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Mitchell-1313

Elizabeth Clay-531 https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Clay-531

Mariola (Savile-104) Clay  https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Savile-104

Henry Savile Esq-105 https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Savile-105

John Savile-26 https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Savile-26

Nicholas Savile-3

What do you think?  Is it accurate?  Can you disprove it?

Cheryl (Aldrich-908) Skordahl
in Genealogy Help by Cheryl Skordahl G2G6 Pilot (240k points)
edited by Cheryl Skordahl
Nicholas Savile was a fairly obscure 4th son, but apparently he now gets a passing mention in Richardson 2013 as an ancestor of William Farrar of Virginia.

He was also an ancestor of General Wolfe (3 lines), Sir Henry Savile Bart, the earls of Mexborough, and the Queen Mother, so he pops up in the Burke-type sources.

He has descents from the Domesday baron Ilbert de Lacy, the Magna Carta baron Roger le Bigod, and allegedly from Hamelin Plantagenet and Isabel de Warenne, if you believe that.  Richardson supports the Fitzwilliam-Warenne marriage, but not everybody agrees.  Why he doesn't show the lines seems to be unknown.

2 Answers

+4 votes
Hi Cheryl.   You have done some good work on the Savile lineage!   Here are some other sources you may want to research on the surname that may help you prove or disprove your work. I have found it is helpful to jump over your ancestor in question and  research the gateway ancestor's ancestors in order to prove or disprove their  lineage.  I hope the following resources will help solve your problem.

1) Calerdale's Companion  found at :   http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~calderdalecompanion/mms47.html

2)  Agnes Hanson (Savile) :  https://www.geni.com/people/Agnes-Gledhill-Savile/6000000000701015312.....daughter of Nicholas Savile, Jr. .

3)  Nicholas Savile, Jr. (b.1470 in Newhall, Yorkshire, England)  https://www.geni.com/people/Nicholas-Savile-Jr/385096640850013800

4)  Wakefield Worthies......great info on the Savile's from 1300's on:       http://freepages.tv.rootsweb.com/~wakefield/wake_worthies.html
by Teresa McLeod G2G1 (1.1k points)
+3 votes


Despite the fact that all of the correct references are on the profile, I do not think the parents of the immigrant Matthew Mitchell are known.  We need to get a hold of 

  • Wood, Matthew. "The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record" (NYGBR). English Origins of the Mitchell, Wood, Lum and Halstead Families. Vol. 120, #1, pp 1 - 9, 98-101, 229-236, vol. 121: 96-101  (1989-1990).
by Joe Cochoit G2G6 Pilot (231k points)
Joe, I have a copy of that NYGBR.  I'll check specifically to see if Matthew Mitchell's parents are revealed.


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