Apparent duplicate of King George IV

Question

According to this profile's biography, this is George Augustus Frederick the Prince of Wales:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Frederick-259

He'll need to be merged with Hannover-16.

I have no idea why he has a son named Robert Cook.

Comments

The nearest I could find on Google was a Robert Cook with a horse sired by Prince Regent out of Miss Comical.

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according to Alison Weir's book    "Britains's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy"  George Augustus Frederick had the following children

Charlotte Augusta

and two illegitimate children

Georgina Frederica Augusta and

George

That's it no other children mentioned
no Robert Cook

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For the record, the following is the real profile - so we dont have to go searching for it!!

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hannover-16

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The profile manager is still occasionally active.  Someone should ask him about the Robert Cook connection.  Maybe it was one of those "family stories?"

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His Wikipedia page reports a number of rumours

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_IV_of_the_United_Kingdom#Marriage_and_mistresses

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Here is the family story as I heard it 60 years ago … Georgie Porgie kissed the girls and made them cry.  One such girl gave birth to Robert Cooke Cook. A trunk of baby clothes with the king's seal was sent with the mother and iscurrently  in Barry County, Bowen Mills, Michigan.

The siblings of my great grandmother Pearl Kenyon  and she signed off any legal claim during the 1930's since this was not socially acceptable to have connection with illegitimate children.

a family secret or a rumor?  IDK.... my straight laced relatives would not like that rumor.  I find it intriguing

Answer 1

The connection between Robert Cooke Cook and George Augustus Frederick seems to come from Ancestry.com, based on an unsourced pedigree. Obviously, even the ancestry.com source was not listed on the profiles.  There's even a GEDCOM file so listing George IV as Robert's father, but I doubt there's any proof to it.

Robert Cook did exist and he married Sophia Kemp in Dallington, Sussex, England and they had 11 children.  I've not confirmed their death dates or places or immigration.  Nor do I know which Caledonia in what is now Ontario that Robert, Sr. and Jr., both apparently drowned.  The profile doesn't list the county.

Was Robert the son of George Cook?  I don't know, but I believe his profile needs to detached from his father's.  No one offering comments seems to say anything about George IV of Hanover having any illegitimate children.

Comments

I think he figured, if he had affairs with the wives of prominent men, they wouldn't rush to give the papers any excuse to print anything.

Answer 2

I've private messaged the PM of Frederick-259 giving him opportunity to cite an authoritative historical record of the father-son relationship between this profile & Cook or confirm that Frederick-259 is mistakenly labeled Prince of Wales in the text block and was created to represent a different man than Hanover-16.  The message also directed the PM to this thread.

I suspect that the Frederick-259 profile was created to represent a different man than Hanover-16 but that the coincidence of the same name at the same time caused an inexperienced genealogist to mislabel him with the royal title.

Answer 3

Hi Sarah, thanks for raising the question.  Michele thanks for the message to PM.  We shall wait to hear a response form the PM of Frederick-259.  If the intention was for Frederick-259 to represent the King of the United Kingdoms and the King of Hanover then we can merge the profile although, being that there is no current source for a son named Robert Cook he should be disconnected unless a source found.  We will give this a week.

In the meantime there are a couple of flaws in the profile of Hannover-16.

The name of the House was Hanover (with one "n").  This requires a clean up.  The Category name, for the "House of Hannover" should be changed to House of Hanover and all profiles changed over.  The LNAB of each profile should also be changed to Hanover.

The Profile does not comply with Euroaristo naming conventions and title should be removed from the "Current Last Name" field and placed into "Other Nicknames" field.

If community is ok with this we can work this through this week pending the merge to ensure the target profile is ready for the merge.

Comments

They're all Hannover.  Presumably that was a decision that was made once.

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Hanover is the English version of Hannover, (which is the German version). This is a German house.

Tough call.