Mary Gerlach date of birth

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Mary's birth date is given as 1755, the same year her son Jacob is said to be born, and she was similarly too young to have had all of her other children. This is a problem. Does anyone have any information that could help this?
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in Genealogy Help by Geoffrey Bennett G2G Rookie (160 points)

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She was probably born on or before 1730 if her first child was born in 1745.

Mary Carlock Starnes

Birth:  unknown
Virginia, USA
Death:  unknown
Mecklenburg County
North Carolina, USA
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Mary's maiden name may have been Carlock/Gerlach. Some sources state that three Carlock sisters, sisters of Rev. Hanschrist Carlock, married three Starnes/Staring/Stearns brothers. Mary married Frederick, Jr. (c.1724-1779), Katherine married Joseph, Sr. (c.1730-1779), both of whom were killed on the Virginia frontier in what is now Kentucky, and Caroline married Adam. 

After their husbands' deaths, Mary and Katherine settled on lands their husbands owned in Mecklenburg Co., NC. I do not know where they are buried, but Mary is probably in the "Old Colonial Starnes cemetery" near the SC line. Katherine may be in an unmarked grave at the Morning Star Lutheran Church, or at the old Bethel Methodist cemetery, near Mint Hill, NC.

Frederick. Jr. & Mary's children were: Capt. John Starnes (1745-1780, a Soldier of the Revolution killed at the Battle of King's Mountain, m. Margaret Speck), Jacob Starnes (c. 1750-1812, a Soldier of the Revolution and Indian fighter, m. Elizabeth South, lived in Kentucky, d. in St. Helena Parish, Louisiana), Valentine Starnes (c.1752-1782, killed at the Battle of Blue Licks, Kentucky), Conrad Starnes (c. 1755-c.1800, m. Margaret Brown), Charles Starnes (c.1756-c.1807, m. Caty, perhaps Catherine Beaver), David Starnes (1758-c.1833, m. Barbara Starns, lived in Mecklenburg Co., NC, now Union Co., 5th great grandfather of the present writer), Frederick Starnes III (c.1765-c.1816, m. Mary Fisher). 

 
 
Family links: 
 Spouse:
  Frederick Starnes (1724 - 1779)
 
 Children:
  John Starnes (1745 - 1780)*
  Valentine Stearns (1752 - 1782)*
  Conrad Starnes (1755 - 1800)*
  David Starnes (1758 - 1833)*
  Frederick Starnes (1765 - 1816)*
 
*Calculated relationship
 
Burial:
Unknown
Specifically: burial place unknown
 
Created by: John Field Pankow
Record added: Dec 28, 2008 
Find A Grave Memorial# 32450184
It is believed that John Starnes was killed at the Battle of Camden, SC in 1780 - not King's Mountain.
HudGen 
 Added: Aug. 15, 2016
imageMy 6th great grandmother.
Phyllis Proctor 
 Added: Jul. 6, 2016
by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.3m points)
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Frederick Starnes, Jr

Birth:  1724
New York, USA
Death:  Apr. 7, 1779
Madison County
Kentucky, USA
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According to the book "Of Them That Left A Name Behind," by the late Herman Starnes of Monroe, NC. and H. Gerald Starnes, Frederick Starnes, Jr. (c.1724-1779), his brother Joseph Starnes (c.1730-1779) and a kinsman, Michael Moyer, may have been buried at the site of this cemetery after they were killed by the Shawnee Indians on 7 April 1779. The only survivor of the massacre, termed "Starns' Defeat," was Joseph Starnes, Jr. (1755-1844), who escaped, being chased by the Indians for more than a mile, and later reached Boonesborough. Col. William Whitley led a company of men who found the bodies and buried them. One account refers to the group as the party of Capt. Starnes. Both Frederick and Joseph had served in the French & Indian War, but I do not know which was a Captain, or if it was a courtesy title.

Frederick and Joseph were sons of Frederick Staring/Starns/Starnes/Stearns (c.1700-1774/5), who had come with his father Adam, uncles Valentine and Nicholas, and other unnamed members of their family from near the village of Alzey in the Palatine region of what is now Germany to America in 1710. The name was originally Staring, pronounced something like Stah-rentz, and went through various spellings after they arrived in America. They arrived in New York in June, 1710. Frederick married Mary Goldman (born c.1703), daughter of Conrad Goldman, another Palatine immigrant. They lived at Herkimer, NY until after 1733, spent a brief time in Pa., and were in southwestern Virginia by about 1740. 

Frederick, Jr.'s wife's name was Mary, and Joseph's wife was Katherine. It has been suggested that they may have been sisters named Carlock/Guerlach, and that a third sister, Caroline, married a third Starnes brother, Adam. This has not been proved. The Starnes brothers took up lands in Mecklenburg County, NC, and also vast tracts on the Virginia frontier in what is now Kentucky. They were on a scouting expedition for more lands when they were killed. Michael Moyer, the third man killed, was described by Joseph Starnes, Jr. as his brother-in-law, so it is likely that he was married to a daughter of Joseph, Sr., though he could possibly have been brother to an unknown first wife of Joseph, Jr. 

Frederick. Jr. & Mary's children were: Capt. John Starnes (1745-1780, a Soldier of the Revolution killed at the Battle of King's Mountain, m. Margaret Speck), Jacob Starnes (c. 1750-1812, a Soldier of the Revolution and Indian fighter, m. Elizabeth South, lived in Kentucky, d. in St. Helena Parish, Louisiana), Valentine Starnes (c.1752-1782, killed at the Battle of Blue Licks, Kentucky), Conrad Starnes (c. 1755-c.1800, m. Margaret Brown), Charles Starnes (c.1756-c.1807, m. Caty, perhaps Catherine Beaver), David Starnes (1758-c.1833, m. Barbara Starns, lived in Mecklenburg Co., NC, now Union Co., 5th great grandfather of the present writer), Frederick Starnes III (c.1765-c.1816, m. Mary Fisher). 

Frederick's will suggests there were other children younger than David. Jacob and David are the only sons mentioned in his will, in addition to "all the rest of my children." John is proved as a son of Frederick by his brother Valentine's will. I wonder if Valentine and Charles weren't younge than the dates I have for them...or they and Conrad may actually have been sons of one of Frederick's brothers. 
 
Family links: 
 Parents:
  Frederick Starnes (1700 - 1775)
  Mary Goldman Starnes (1703 - ____)
 
 Spouse:
  Mary Carlock Starnes*
 
 Children:
  John Starnes (1745 - 1780)*
  Valentine Stearns (1752 - 1782)*
  Conrad Starnes (1755 - 1800)*
  David Starnes (1758 - 1833)*
  Frederick Starnes (1765 - 1816)*
 
 Siblings:
  Valentine Starnes (1722 - 1761)*
  Frederick Starnes (1724 - 1779)
  Leonard Starnes (1726 - 1782)*
  Joseph Starnes (1730 - 1779)*
 
*Calculated relationship
 
Burial:
Pilot Knob Cemetery 
Berea
Madison County
Kentucky, USA
 
Created by: John Field Pankow
Record added: May 13, 2008 
Find A Grave Memorial# 26800912
by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.3m points)

Click on image for enlargement. 

Frederick Starnes, Jr

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