Question

What is the y-DNA of William the Conqueror?

Answer 1

Wikipedia has an excellent site with many famous people.  Not sure about the Conqueror but Napoleon is there

Napoleon

Napoleon Bonaparte belonged to haplogroup E1b1b1c1* (E-M34*). This haplogroup has its highest concentration in Ethiopia and in the Near East (Jordan). According to the authors of the study, "Probably Napoléon also knew his remote oriental patrilineal origins, because Francesco Buonaparte (the Giovanni son), who was a mercenary under the orders of the Genoa Republic in Ajaccio in 1490, was nicknamed “The Maur of Sarzane” ".^[46]

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_haplogroups_of_historical_and_famous_figures#Thomas_Jefferson

 

 

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Tracing father to son for 35 generations I have found that my 35th ggfather is Baldwin II Strong Arm Duke of Flanders.  Rollo the Uncle of William the Conquorer seems implicated in Normandy /Flanders so we can trace 25 father to sons from Baldwin II to John Sutton's son Sir Robert Dudley his 25th direct line male father to son descendant.  I have traced 10 moregenations to my self tested in 2013 as I-1 M253.  Thus we might be pointed toward the sister of Baldwin II who married Le Teuton de Sutton also known as I-1 M253.  I also match Sutton and Dudley lines at 2nd cousin 23/25 markers M253 and Sutton at Robert on Family Tree 60/67  I-1 M253 a 6th proved cousin of Sir Robert dudley.  That gives you a fairly accurate indicator of the Sutton Ancestry back to the same family of Baldwin II.  I also have 8 baldwin male to male ancestors on my mother's side.  DCR 1948

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Seems like this might have something to do with this person

https://gw.geneanet.org/iraird?lang=en&n=le+teuton&oc=0&p=gilbert

Which only makes me wonder what they're on, and where can I get some.

Answer 2

I believe I have bi-angulated the yDNA of the House of Normandy. I've used yDNA and autosomal DNA matching. and it's taken me years to counter the incorrect research that has been published over the last century. Our yDNA group was fortunate enough to have been matched to an individual who, amazingly, has a paper trail back to Rollo.

https://smithgenealogy.wordpress.com
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:DNA_Group_R-M269-9

Thanks,

Chris Smith

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Chris, you state that you have a paper trail back to William, but on wikitree the YDNA descendants trail out around 1200? Where is the gap, and how do we get it corrected to show your information?

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Hey Jonathan, thanks for replying.

Neither my group's yDNA match nor my group have a paper trail on our male lines back to William the Conqueror. I'm not sure anyone alive today has such a thing.

My research involves agnatic lines of William the Conqueror, that is, it involves male lines that share a common patrilineal origin with the male line of William the Conqueror.

This is similar to the attempt undertaken by Michael Maglio, but is much more precise as the family of a yDNA donor of a very well documented male line has been generous enough to allow his information and DNA to be used in this search.

My research is largely unique and will not be found elsewhere, online or in print.

My immediate group can be tied, via autosomal DNA analysis, to the Smiths of Blackmore in Essex. These Smiths, according to many, descend from a Carrington line that is suggested by many to be descended from a Marquis of Carentan, Normandy, France. This person was descended from the same male line as Richard the Fearless. 

John Horace Round attempted to do away with any remaining belief that this Carrington alias Smith story held any possibility of being legitimate, but I have been able to show where his research is lacking in quality control. I do agree with him on many points, but his reliance on heraldic elements in his arguments mostly invalidates them.

My group's yDNA match descends from a Somerset Hamilton Butler, 1st Earl of Carrick and a patrilineal descendant of Hervey Walteri, a patrilineal descendant of Richard the Fearless.

So not sure where we're seeing that I've stated I'm descended from William the Conqueror on my male line. None of my research will ever state that. If you do find reference to my research that includes such a statement, it is errant and I request that you let me know where you find that statement so I can be sure it gets corrected.

Thanks for the interest! I'd really like to get my research added to the WikiTree pages where appropriate. I believe it will help many researchers.

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I believe the question came up because of this quote on the https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:DNA_Group_R-M269-9:

I believe it to be within the realm of possibility that my Smith line possesses [the 12 STR marker yDNA profile of The House of Normandy, specifically that of the Dukes of Normandy and William the Conqueror].

Thanks for the clarification! I've enjoyed reading some of your research, well done.