Two profiles with same id number

Question

Hi There. Was working on Database errors and came across two profiles which have the same ID number. The ID points to Lady Anne Spencer (Churchill) which was added in November 2008 and also to Ephraim Church­ill Sr which is added in February 2017.  I found it on page http://wikitree.sdms.si/function/WTStatus/Status.htm?ErrID=565&UserID1=3036&UserID2=15121941 . Can this please be looked into and sorted.

 

Thank you

Darren

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Help, please. I think I have the same problem, with Profile ID Spafford-253, but cannot figure out from your answers how to fix it.  I created a profile for Francis Spafford and when I am on his page I see this url — https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Spafford-253

Whenever I try to go directly to the profile usijg that that URL, I get a message that the page doesn’t exist, or else the profile of a lady named Dora Spafford displays, and the URL for her profile page also shows https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Spafford-253

However, when I go to the profile of Francis’s daughter, Hannah (Spafford) Martin (Spafford-252), Francis shows up as her father, and clicking on his name takes me to his profile with the URL again appearing to be https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Spafford-253

Update:  Mystery of Dora is solved (I think). She’s Spofford-253 and Francis is Spafford-253, so it was probably a typo that made her show up instead of Francis, but I’m still getting the record doesn’t exist error when Trying to go directly to Francis using the Spafford-253 URL.

Answer 1

Looks like a WIkiTree bug that kills Project Database error

A profile in WIkiTree should have an unique WikiTree ID that is human readable. 

Now we get two profiles with the "same" ID see Compare branches  

• One Churchill-2
  • with Project database Error ID 00003036
• One Church­ill-2 
  • with Project database Error ID 15121941

The reason is that one of the profiles containes some hidden characters (look like URL encoded)

1. 00003036
   1. Anne (Churchill) Spencer (1683 - 1716)
   2. URL https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Churchill-2
2. 15121941
   1. Ephraim Church­ill Sr. (1709 - 1749)
   2. URL https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Church%C2%ADill-2

The difference is %C2%AD

 

Feels WikiTree Advanced Technology group has to go back to the drawing table and see why.....

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nope...

see: https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:NetworkFeed&who=Church%C2%ADill-1

13:55: Rev Daniel Washburn Jones edited the data for Ephraim Church­ill Jr.. (Merged Churchill-2439 into Church­ill-1: clear duplicate) [Thank Rev Daniel Washburn for this]

He reversed the direction after you proposed it.

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;-) cool then we are back on square 0. Feels like a Turing test you throw in a merge request with a comment and it failed......

I love crowdsourced genealogy... why make it easy... 

I more and more like the bot concept in the same way that I start to believe driverless cars will make my day better ;-)

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Same with Church%C2%ADill-3 he changed the merge....

I asked him to read this thread again.... will it help...

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possibly if you had explained that the merge needed to go into a higher number to fix an error .... I get merge requests all the time with the numbers reversed ... sorry, send again and I'll merge however it's set.

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Thanks the problem is the odd characters....

1. still problem with 
   1. Church%C2%ADill-1
   2. Church%C2%ADill-3

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and this can't be fixed by just renaming the LNAB?

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I wish I could "like" Rev Jones comment :)

Sometimes Mangus is a little too verbose... other times, not enough :)

"specificity is the soul of all good communication" -- The Middleman

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Yes, renaming the LNAB or Merging, they are both technically the same thing.

However, not sure it will work in this case, because of the "invisible" character in the data field. Seems like it should work though.

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Renaming LNAB you need to be the Profile manager which I wasnt

To do this you need to be in control as you copy and paste invisible characters´. My solution is to paste it to an editor Text Wrangler where I display invisible characters.......


Picture of me editing ;-)

Ps. I think I get bored fast and WikiTree is more and more about non genealogy things and more about wiki markup if we should use or not use templates etc.... which I feel is a little bit sad...

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Magnus, I agree "WikiTree is more and more about ,,,, matching some other databases junk. I really, really, really, really hate matching findagrave.

Answer 2

%C2%AD is known as a "soft hyphen" in code. This frequently is used in headers and webpage titles to keep things looking properly when you have items like / - _ & etc. The most common way we would get them in our database and especially in LNAB field is copying text from a webpage.

I always try to copy from the BODY of the text if I can and not the TITLE as most of the code is in the title part.

consider the link to the Nor'Easters home space page.

https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Space:Nor%27easters_Team&public=1

%27 is the ' and looks like it on a website. but in a DATABASE ' and %27 are completely different. That is why many errors in name or place you have to hilite all, delete, and retype to fix it.