Marriage Mystery. Can you help me make sense of this craziness?

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My recent Goodman ancestors are something else, I tell ya. I've spent an incredible amount of time researching my great-great grandpa Thomas Goodman, his origins, and his untimely death. Every mystery solved seems to create even more questions.

Thomas's parents Joseph and Idella were married in 1871. See marriage certificate here.

In 1880 Joseph and Idella are living together with their two younger children, but 8 year old Thomas lives with his maternal grandparents. I do not know why.

In 1888, Joseph remarries. See marriage certificate here. I assumed Idella must have died because I could find no trace of her between 1880 and this date. She's only in a handful of family trees throughout the internet and no one has sourced any documents after the 1880 census. It appears Joseph and his second wife had a child named Rosie before they were married. Rosie was raised by an adopted mother but Joseph and his second wife are listed as her parents on her marriage certificate.

As it turns out, Idella was alive and well during all of this. She remarried a man named Edward Hampton (spelling varies) in early 1889. See the marriage bond and certificate (bottom half) here. Notice on the bond that Joseph signed as the surety for this marriage! He also signed as a witness on the certificate along with a man named Albert Miller.

Barely six months later, Idella married for a third time to Albert Miller! See marriage index and certificate (right page, top) here.

I'm having a very hard time imagining the circumstances that led to this series of events. I can find no record of Idella, Edward, or Albert after 1889.

Joseph and Idella's two sons Thomas and Charley grew up to be riverboat gamblers and moonshiners. Whatever happened between Joseph and Idella, it created a dark and stormy family culture that lasted many generations. Thomas was an unruly drunk who was shot and killed in 1906. His only child, my great grandpa, battled depression and died mysteriously (probably suicide) in the Ohio River at the age of 52. His son, my grandpa, was a safe cracker and went to prison more than once. Domestic violence plagued them all.

What do you ladies and gentlemen think about all this!? Maybe it's not as strange as it seems to me...Any ideas, questions, comments, or help would be much appreciated!
in Genealogy Help by Jacob Goodman G2G6 (6.2k points)
edited by Jacob Goodman

I think you have some candidates for the Black Sheep Project in your lineage!

Dear Jacob,

    Unusual events were sometimes reported in local newspapers.  Since you know where Joseph & Idella were in 1880, I would check to see if any newspapers from that period are available.  If there were any events that made the police records, those might have been printed.

    Also, since some of the census enumerators were instructed to list people where they found them, is it possible that 8-year old Thomas was just visiting his maternal grandparents?  Or were they some distance away?

   Hope this helps. -NGP

Oh, I see you already have some newspaper sources on Thomas Goodman-3792.  Well, anyway....
You're not kidding, Jim! Seems like my dad's side is one big herd of black sheep.
Thank you for your help Nanette! Last summer I was able to find all those newspaper articles about Thomas at the Henderson, KY library. This summer I'm hoping to spend time at the Owensboro library looking for articles about Joseph (and Thomas). I'm confident I will find something.

Thomas absolutely could have just been visiting his grandparents in 1880, but it was about 30 miles from where his parents were living. And at that same time, Jordan, his grandfather was housing his own step-father and the mother of his first wife. His step-father's will describes him as a caring man and benefactor, and it seems he had a habit of taking people in and looking after them.

Finger's crossed I'll find some more info this summer! Thanks again.

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Check court records for the time period when she leaves the household. Husbands sometimes divorced their wives and kept the children or sent them to the Grandparents. I have a divorce around that time period. The ladies reputation was ruined, but as with my bunch they sound wild, husband could be but wives could not!
by Lynn Pugh G2G Rookie (270 points)
Wild is right! Can't believe I'm even here on this earth with all the shenanigans they pulled. I will be checking court records and newspaper archives this summer. Thanks for your input.

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