Ready for another Gilman Mess?

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In teasing apart and cleaning up the mess resulting from the confusion about Mary Gilman-2 (daughter of Edward Gilman-12) and Mary Gilman-163 (sister of Edward Gilman-12), I discovered research that proves that Edward Gilman-12 (who married Mary Clark then emigrated to New England in 1638) was NOT the son of Robert Gilman-29 and Mary Hawes-1, but actually the son of Robert's BROTHER, Edward Gilman.

And in looking into what it will take to fix THAT mess, I found that the generations above Edward Gilman-12 are really messed up. There are brothers who are 30 years apart in age, and that's just the start of it.

So if you are working on this line, let's get a definitive outline of the correct ancestry and then fix the mess that is here.

First source I'm working with is TAG 11:136.
WikiTree profile: Edward Gilman
in Policy and Style by Jillaine Smith G2G6 Pilot (771k points)
edited by Jillaine Smith

God bless your heart - I would be  totally insane by now - and totally bald from just pulling all my hair out!!!

We NEED a new BADGE for merging kings and queens - like Jillaine!

Well, thank you, but...

I am NOT doing this one by myself. No way, no way. (She says now...)
It doesn't matter if you are by yourself or having tons on help - merges of these early US ancestors and confirming the data is an absolute nightmare - which I shun away from - for fear

I will ruin someone else's 'stuff'

I will ruin my own 'stuff'

I will become soooo confused when the 12 children become 24 and then 48 and then 96 - that I would give up on genealogy altogether.

I will have nightmares for life!

so I say Kudos to all who work so hard to get these details correct!
Well, the merging tools have gotten easier, so that helps.

And well, it's already a mess so it can't get much worse... can it?
I believe I just really made a mess of someone else's work in another surname, so Chris, I now share your fear.

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Here's the bit about the direct line up from the emigrant Edward:


Clarence Almon Torrey, “English Origin of Edward1 Gilman,” in The American Genealogist, 11 (1934): 137-138.

Edward1 Gilman, who came from Hingham, England, in 1638, and settled at Hingham, Massachusetts, was not a son of Robert and Mary (-----) Gilman, as stated by Arthur Gilman in his Gilman Genealogy. Robert Giman, who was baptized July 10, 1559, at Caston, co. Norfolk, England, had a brother Edward, baptized there Apr. 20, 1557. This Edward was the father of Edward Gilman, the emigrant of 1638. Credit for this discovery is due to the late Col. Charles Edward Banks, who found a deposition of the younger Edward, made in 1637, when, according to the record, he was fifty years of age. He mentioned his father Edward in the deposition.

The corrected Gilman line is as follows:

# Edward Gilman m June 21, 1550, Rose Rysse

# Edward Gilman, bapt Apr 20, 1557; m. _____ _____.

# Edward Gilman, the emigrant, b circa 1587 [age 50 in 1637]; d. at Exeter, N.H.; m. at Hingham, England, June 3, 1614, Mary Clark

… Edward, baptized in 1557… inherited a house and land in Halwicks, in accordance with his father’s will. The location of this property has not been ascertained. He probably lived at Hingham, England, for a few years subsequent to 1600. Hingham parish records, which being in 1600, mention two daughters:

# Margaret, bapt. Aug. 1, 1602

# Sarah, bapt. Dec. 4, 1603.* [*This date is stated as Oct. 4 or as Dec. 4 in different copies of the Hngham records. The latter date seems the more likely, from the position of the entry in relation to dates of adjacent entries.]

No further record concerning these daughters and their father are found in the parish register. 

by Jillaine Smith G2G6 Pilot (771k points)
Now I need to go find the bit about the Gilmans on the British side. I saw it somewhere...
Actually, I need to take a break from this project. Maybe someone else can pick up the British side?
I have married into the "Gilman's" from the British side.  I have recieved a valuable personal book (well photocopies) of Gilman British Geneology.  Need any Help??

I have records here from a Edward Gilman 1587-1681 married to a Mary Clark

with childrens named Mary, Edward, Sarah, Lydia, John, Moses and 4 other children who died young and unmarried.

Anyhow the personal copies I have recieved are from my husband's Great Great Uncle from England.  The British Gilman's seem to be tight knit family.

If you need any help with this "Gilman" project let me know

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