Question

Is anyone following Leysing de Barton, from Normandie, France

Comments

Preston is mentioned on the profiles, but that's the wrong Barton.  This is Barton-on-Irwell, near Manchester.

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/lancs/vol4/pp363-376

Barton near Preston is

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/lancs/vol7/pp127-128

There's at least one more Barton in Lancashire, a hamlet near Southport.

 

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I would look in here. https://www.bartonsite.org/Lineage_I.html

Answer 1

Which Leysing de Barton are you referring to?  I located two on Wikitree:  Barton-419 is son of Barton-421.

I have him in my personal database.  Information I obtained from British History Online states:  "Two sons of Leysing, named Sweyn and Leysing, owed money in 1129 for an agreement between themselves and Stephen, Count of Mortain, as lord of the land between Ribble and Mersey; Lancs. Pipe R. 1. It is suggested that the younger Leysing may have been the grandfather of Edith de Barton, and it may be a confirmation of this that the Barton family were the successors in Cadishead of a certain Sweyn; Lancs. Inq. and Extents, i, 66. Lescelina daughter of Matthew son of Leysing, lord of Barton, made a grant in Swinton; ibid. (quoting Ellesmere D.); and Eda (Edith) daughter of Matthew, already married to Gilbert de Notton, was plaintiff in 1203; Cur. Reg. R. 26. The other sister, Maud, is probably the Maud de Barton who made a grant in Monton; Whalley Couch. (Chet. Soc.) iii, 894."

Darlene, Co-Leader, British Isles Royals and Aristocrats 742-1499 Project

Comments

Darlene do we have the profiles set accurately? I have no idea and as both the individuals are showing as my 27th and 28th GGF respectively I'm interested in this discussion. Thanks!

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Cynthia, I haven't followed the line down here on Wikitree to see what it shows.  I have Leysing in my personal database.  I do trace a line down from him to myself, but did this over a decade ago and haven't looked it over to see if it still holds up to close scrutiny.

I have various sources you can look at for information:

• Record Society for the Publication of Original Documents relating to Lancashire and Cheshire, Vol. 39, publ. 1899 by Record Society of Lancashire and Cheshire, Record Society (England).  It is/was on Google Books.
• The chartulary of Cockersand abbey of the Premonstratensian order, transcribed and edited by William Farrer, Vol.II, Part II, Printed for the Chetham Society, 1900.
• 'Townships: Barton', A History of the County of Lancaster: Volume 4 (1911), pp. 363-376. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=41441

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Thanks for the sources Darlene, I sincerely appreciate this. I will put them on my to do list but it will probably be awhile till I could get to them as I'm currently fighting cancer. So if anyone who happens to read this post gets to it before me that would be fine.

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Well, heck.  That's rotten!  Keep up the fight, and I will add you to my prayers.  I'm sorry I don't have much time right now . . .  Maybe another EuroAristo member will take it on!

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Thank you Darlene it is very kind of you. I'll keep it on my to do list and hopefully someone will see this post.

Answer 2

As I was looking at this family line I found a few of my ancestors who need to be adopted. I don't have pre-1500 Certification and dealing with health issues, so I'm listing them here if anyone connected wants to work on them. Think I saw others including some with no sourcing so clearly the family line is lacking  

 

1)  Ingleby-13

2)  Strangeways-40

Answer 3

I have a Leysing in my tree. With a father Swen/Swain. Who is a Xtimes grandfather of Lettice Barton married to Henry Lever