if i add a daughter to her mother, and the mother is married, should she not carry her father's last name?

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perhaps i should reproduce the problem before asking.

i am relatively new here.

this is what i encountered: the child gets (prefilled) the name of her mother, although she is married to the child's father.

i think it is an error in the wikitree program. let me know if i need to reproduce the exact sequence. i hope i can :-)

thx, Ron
in WikiTree Tech by Ronald Wopereis G2G2 (2.1k points)

5 Answers

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Does her mother carry a wedded name? Many females listed here come from GEDCOMs and usually don't come with a wedded name although they were in fact married.
by Tom Bredehoft G2G6 Pilot (194k points)
In Scotland the woman could carry her own name (in common law and be "known as" the name of her partner) and then marry someone and then take the name of the man she married, Which can be confusing and takes some time to clarify or work out what happened chronologically. It also leads to children of different names appearing with the same mother and various fathers.

 

hope this helps
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Ronald:

Sometimes the autofill function in the wiki does make an error. The key for us is we want to enter the childs name at birth. (Generally the fathers name) unless some unusual circumstance like born out of wedlock or whatever. DThe girls, of course, will change names when they get married. Their name will then show as:

Given Name (Birth last Name) New married last name. Once you get used to it, it does cut the confusion between maiden name and married name
by Anonymous Knight G2G6 Mach 3 (35.5k points)
Tom and Holly, thank you both for answering my question.

It works differently here from MyHeritage website, so I guess i have to get used to and adapt to this fact.

The difference is, when i clear the Current Last Name, it refills with the word "Anonymous". In MyHeritage, clearing the Current Last Name is perfectly fine, it is not refilled by anything and the woman is then showed as if Current Last Name had indeed her husbands last name in it.

So when this person was attached to Mr. Wrong, and i reconnect her to Mr. Right, in MyHeritage i do not have to change her Current Last Name, simply because it is empty. I now understand that this behaviour is specific for MyHeritage and not for WikiTree.

Thx,

Ron
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In Scotland a woman can state "reported father" if they weren't married at the time of birth, even if she married someone else. There can be other ways of recording "reported" as in alleged, purported, etc.

You could make a note in the approprioate persons entry to that effect.
by Billy Wallace G2G6 Pilot (212k points)
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I am also new here, and I think I noticed that if I am on the father's profile when I add the child, it auto-populates the child's last name with his surname - but -  if I am on the mother's profile it auto populates the child's surname with her maiden name.
by April Dauenhauer G2G6 Pilot (109k points)
When adding a daughter (or son) to a woman, (who is indeed married) there is a box at the bottom left of the form to check if the husband is the child's father. This isn't a really obvious option, if not checked, the mothers' maiden name is applied to the child.
Thank you very much for throwing light on that situation for me Tom!  I have seen and checked the box, must have just forgotten it the one time the mother's name came up on the child I added. I was very surprised and confused. Fixed it easily enough, good intuitive software, but couldn't figure out quite how I made it happen. I really like knowing "why"!  You deserve a star!
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When you add a child, by default the last name at birth will be filled in as the Current Last Name of whichever parent you add the child to. So if you add the child from the mother's profile, and her Current Last Name is her husband's name, then the child will by default have the father's name.

I feel the need to point out that it's far from universal for a child to have the father's last name. It varies by culture and individual, and may actually be the mother's last name, a patronymic or something like that, or a hyphenated name. So no auto-fill choice is going to work perfectly in all cases.
by Lianne Lavoie G2G6 Pilot (423k points)

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