Seeking marriage record and confirming birth record for Arline Descoteaux (B 1831)

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Hoping to get some help in sourcing my 3xgreat grandmother. I have not been able to locate her marriage record, though I /think/ I may have found her birth record (but I am not 100% sure.)

Here is what I know:

- Name: Arline Descoteaux (or perhaps Descoteaux dit Lefebvre or Lefebvre dit Descoteaux.)

- Married Adolphe Joseph Beaudoin (AKA Gervais dit Beaudoin, I believe.)

- Their children seem to be born in Trois-Rivieries, Quebec, Canada.

- Information from another family tree (unsourced) seems to suggest her parents were Michel Antoine Descoteaux and Josephe Rouillard (or Josephte Rouillard Lecompte.)

- I found a birth record to the above parents for a "Marie Adeline", but I have no clue if this is my "Arline" or not. I don't know if "Arline" is a common alternative for "Adeline"?

Here is the birth record of one of her children:

"Canada Births and Baptisms, 1661-1959," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F2HP-1Z3 : 27 November 2014), Arline Descoteaux in entry for Pierre Beaudoin, 06 Feb 1852; citing , 06 Feb 1852, reference ; FHL microfilm 1,298,978.

And here is the /potential/ birth record of the "Marie Adeline" I found - not sure if this is Arline?

Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979, database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JDRG-GXF : 6 December 2014), Marie Adelaïde, 12 Aug 1831, BAPTISM; citing Immaculée Conception, Trois-Rivières, Quebec, Canada, nos paroisses de Église Catholique, Quebec (Catholic Church parishes, Quebec); FHL microfilm 1,298,977.

Any help is appreciated. I have ye tto get the hang of searching the indexes for these Quebec names to try to find sources.
WikiTree profile: Arline Beaudoin
in Genealogy Help by Kristen Louca G2G6 Mach 2 (28.7k points)

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Adeline Lefebvre Descoteaux

 in the Quebec, Canada, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1968

VIEWQuebec, Canada, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1968

      Name: Adeline Lefebvre Descoteaux
      Spouse: Adolphe Gervais
      Event: Mariage (Marriage)
      Marriage Year: 1850
      Marriage Location: Trois-Rivières, Québec (Quebec)
      Place of Worship or Institution: Immaculée-Conception, cathédrale l´Assomption

      Source Information

      Ancestry.com. Quebec, Canada, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1968 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2008.

      Original data: Gabriel Drouin, comp. Drouin Collection. Montreal, Quebec, Canada: Institut Généalogique Drouin.

       

      Thank you! That is exactly what I was looking for.

      So the birth record I found seems like it was probably her.

      I have to wonder if the transcription on the other records is wrong or if she really did go by "Arline" as a nickname.

      Then again, I have another ancestor whose birth name was "Marie Amanda" who seemingly went by "Maud" in some records and "Amanda" in others.
      I have an ancestor who was baptized Marie Adèle. She was often identified as Adéline (the diminutive), but on some parish and census records she was called Arline (or Harline). I don't know if Arline is a variant ... Adéline and Arline sound very similar in Québécois French (moreso than in English) .... this may be a case of the parish priest mis-hearing the name. French is not my first language so maybe a native speaker can comment? See: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Fiset-96 . Incidentally, my Arline was born around the same time as yours, and baptized in the same parish !
      One thing you have to remember is that on many church records, particularly baptisms, the mother of the child is not present, and sometimes the father isn't either, only the godparents.  If they don't know the woman's correct name, they may give anything they think is right, or the priest may dub-in what he thinks.

      You also have the case of women who change their names as the fancy takes them.  It happens.  No way to tell why, and since ID cards are a fairly modern invention, you have to make sure you don't get fooled.

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      PRDH has this Josephe Rouillard Lecompte as married to Michel Lefebvre Descoteaux. She was born and baptized 23 Mar 1787. I started to attach your Josephe to her parents Urbain Rouillard and Marie Langlois but figured with the different birth dates I'd better wait for you to decide.

       

      "Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G99S-FQ8L?cc=1321742&wc=9RLH-6TG%3A18754401%2C18754402%2C19183701 : 16 July 2014), Saint-Antoine-de-la-Baie-du-Febvre > Saint-Antoine-de-la-Baie-du-Febvre > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1773-1812 > image 191 of 903; nos paroisses de Église Catholique, Quebec (Catholic Church parishes, Quebec).

       

      They married 9 Jan 1815:

      Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-899S-FSP1?cc=1321742&wc=9RLH-DPD%3A18754401%2C18754402%2C13682901 : 16 July 2014), Saint-Antoine-de-la-Baie-du-Febvre > Saint-Antoine-de-la-Baie-du-Febvre > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1812-1844 > image 59 of 767; nos paroisses de Église Catholique, Quebec (Catholic Church parishes, Quebec).

      by Karen Lowe G2G6 Pilot (133k points)
      selected by Kristen Louca
      As a woman about to turn 47, I like this birthdate as it gives Josephe Rouillard Lecompte one more child at 44 and not 50. :-)
      I agree that that birthdate seems a bit more feasible!

      The original birthdate on the profile was likely transferred over from the Geni tree gedcom I imported - I'm just getting around to cleaning up and trying to source this branch. So it my be that the original Geni tree (which probably did not have a source listed) was incorrect.

      Thanks for your help! :) This is great.
      Will probably have to change her Last Name at Birth to be Rouillard, perhaps. These dit names can be so confusing!
      Fixed things up on her profile, added the sources and connected her to her parents again. Thank you again!

      This links me up with my direct matrilineal lineage, too, which I was 95% certain of but the sources were missing on WikiTree to connect things up. (I have the MTDNA haplogroup 'W', more likely W3A2, which is directly linked to me on WikiTree now.)

      Here is the founder of the haplogroup, who connects matrilineally with Josephte Rouillard Descoteaux: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Marguerie-1
      Hey, that's great! Are you going to add your mtDNA test to WikiTree?
      Alas, I haven't gotten a full MTDNA test yet, though I considered it.

      I only deduced my haplogroup from the haplogroup assignment I got from my 23andMe test and then running my raw data through a different tool to analyze for a more detailed/fine-tuned haplogroup assignment. That one spat out 95% confidence or something that I was W3A2. That, plus the couple trees I had found that pointed to my direct matrilineal line likely being from this line made me fairly confident.

      Now at least the line itself is sourced on paper! :)
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      I find the marriage of Adeline Lefebvre dite Descôteaux with Adolphe Gervais dit Beaudoin on 19 Aug 1850 in Trois-Rivières.  He is son of André Gervais dit Beaudoin and Claire Rousseau, she is daughter of Michel Lefebvre dit Descôteaux and Josephte Lecomte per this marriage record.  Rouillard is correct, Lecomte was a dit name for that family.  Have entered data for you on relevant parts.
      by Danielle Liard G2G6 Pilot (325k points)

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