Husband and name with title as well as birth and marriage details match

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WikiTree profile: Eme Essex
asked in Policy and Style by Jay Tyler G2G1 (1.3k points)
retagged by John Atkinson

2 Answers

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The problem is that none of the 3 profiles for Eme (Current Last Name-Osbourne) have any sources that might indicate what her Last Name at Birth (LNAB) should be?

If her LNAB is really Unknown, then the other two profiles should both be merged into Unknown-167448 as Unknown is preferred to UNKNOWN but before that happens a source or sources should be identified that name her.

I don't have time to do that at the moment until much later today, so I've added the euroaristo tag and hopefully someone else will have some time to find something.

answered by John Atkinson G2G6 Pilot (286k points)
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Apparently these are the ancestors of David Cameron's puppeteer Gideon Osborne, who we never thought we'd miss, and they ran the Treasury for a century and a half in the Tudor and Stuart era.

But they were a bit nouveau then.  There's no pedigree in the Essex Visitations or the Additional Pedigrees.

DNB only reports a tradition that they came from the north.  Peter was at (not born at) Purleigh in 1440.

The internet name of his wife seems to be inspired by an Emma Bourchier who was a Countess of Essex.

It was probably their son who built Tyle Hall near Latchingdon, a moated Tudor manor house.

His son's 2nd son Peter moved to South Fambridge and got the Treasury job and made the family.

That part of Essex doesn't seem to be covered in VCH.  I think it was dried-out bog without much history.

There was an Osborne family at Hartlip in Kent, but I'm not seeing any connection.  They're done very sketchily in Hasted and mentioned in Berry's Kent pedigrees.  Much later Hartlip descended through an heiress to a family called Tylden, and there's some sort of attempt going on to connect this name to Tyld Hall, but it isn't working.
answered by RJ Horace G2G6 Pilot (373k points)

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