Can I get a little help with George Saltzman?

Question

George is part of the Palatine Migration Project but he is poorly sourced.  I have been contacted outside of WikiTree for help with this line.

Any helpful info on where to get started would be much appreciated.

Comments

A unfriendly merge created the Salzmann surname but the Last Name at Birth (LNAB) may need to be changed (again!).

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Michael, what is an "unfriendly merge"?

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If you look at the comments section, I attempted to have a discussion on the correct LNAB.  I never got an answer and the profile was merged without any dicussion.  I believe it was with the wrong LNAB.  So it was not in keeping with WikiTree's policy of collaboration.  I see that the person who did the merge has since had their account closed.

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Hello.  I know I am responding to a comment that was made quite some time ago. My grandmother LNAB was Saltsman. I am assuming the spellings changed over time.  Has this been resolved? Thank you for your time.

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It has been a while but please take a look and offer any suggestions you think would help improve the profile. Thank you.

Answer 1

To the surname:

As Kathy wrote, the German version would be Salzmann or sometimes Saltzmann.

I searched archion (lutheran) and matricula (Catholic) records, but no records from Stollberg (Erzgebirge) online.

I searched the curch books of Stolberg (Harz mountain); but there is no Salzmann in 1693 born.

His father should be born in Storkenburg. There is no laocation with this name in Germany. There are locations named Starkenberg, Starkenburg, Storchenberg. The nearest location to Stollberg/Erzgebirge is Starkenberg near Altenburg in Saxony (60 km).

There is one source I could find on FamilySearch:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:HWVL-L82M

But be careful with the tree on FamilySearch. Why all his siblings are born in Baden, but he in Saxony and his parents lived in Baden and died in Baden???

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Dieter, is there any chance you would have access to the following book? "Jahrbuch für auslandsdeutsche Sippenkunde (1936)"  This is the original source for his immigration apparently, I found it on http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Jahrbuch_f%C3%BCr_auslandsdeutsche_Sippenkunde#1._Jahrgang

The 1936 edition had an article by Otto Lohr, "Das älteste deutsch-amerikanische Kirchenbuch (1708-1719)."  worldcat.org shows a copy at a library in Israel, but maybe you could find this in Germany, if that's where you are?

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I searched a little bit. In the Germany it is avaible in some University Libraries like Leipzig, Berlin, Detmold, Bielefeld and others.

It is far away from me. I am living in a rural district in Lower Saxony, 1 hour away from the next highway.

My daughter (she studies in Oxford, GB) will visit me in 14 days when I have birthday. I will ask her if she can try to get a copy of that article.

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The Salzmann’s are collateral lines for me.  I do not even remember why I was working on this profile.

However I have a Castleman line.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Castleman-141

Whose brother John

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Castleman-291

Married a Salzmanm

And a Culp line

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Culp-404

Whose second husband was a Saltsman that I have not yet connected on Wikitree.

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Sorry this guy’s brother Andreas is my ancestor and he married a Salzmann.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Casselman-101

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That is very nice of you and happy birthday!

I looked for auswanderung records in arcinsys.de but did not find anything promising.  I think you are right to be cautious about an origin of Saxony for his tree record on familysearch, a 7 year gap to the next child, 21 years from oldest to youngest child and 250 miles from where his "parents" were married in Baden to Stollberg, Saxony.

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It seems odd to look for either of these publications in Germany (though there may be copies there).  They seem to be German-language American publications.

Answer 2

I added the records I could find.

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Thanks Doug!  Much appreciated.

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I added some more too and cleaned up the formatting a bit.

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Thanks for your help Brad

Answer 3

His LNAB would be Salzmann or Saltzmann (first is more likely).  It means Salt-man, likely someone who worked in the salt mines.

Comments

Good information thanks for sharing Kathy.

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The Saltsmans were wagon makers, in the Mohawk Valley.  I have a, now deteriorated, Saltsman wooden wagon gear.