Who were the parents of Sarah Elizabeth (Crockett) Goodgame?

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The following replicates the public note on the profile page. Forgive me if this is unnecessarily duplicative.

Contrary to what is presented in profile Crockett-597, "Historical Southern Families, Vol. IV, page 53, by John Broddie presents Sarah Elizabeth (Crockett) Goodgame as the daughter of

  • John Crockett, "born ca. 1750/54", and
  • Rebeca Hawkins

and, therefore, the brother of Davy Crockett.

Are there sources other than "firsthand knowledge" that reject Broddie and confirm Sarah Elizabeth (Crockett) Goodgame as the daughter of John Crockett (1737-1799) and Elizabeth (Montgomery) Crockett (c 1740-1828)?

Thank you.

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John Crockett

 in the U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970

VIEWU.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970

      Name: John Crockett
      Death Place: Eastern, Tennessee
      SAR Membership: 24788
      Role: Ancestor
      Spouse: Rebecca Hawkins
      Children: Elizabeth Crockett

      Source Citation

      Volume: 124

      Source Information

      Ancestry.com. U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.

      Original data: Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970. Louisville, Kentucky: National Society of the Sons of the American Revolution. Microfilm, 508 rolls.

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      National Society, Sons of the American Revolution

       

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      Elizabeth Crockett

       in the U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970

      VIEWU.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970

          Name: Elizabeth Crockett
          SAR Membership: 24788
          Role: Ancestor
          Father: John Crockett
          Mother: Rebecca Hawkins
          Spouse: Thomas Iles
          Children: Washington Iles

          Source Citation

          Volume: 124

          Source Information

          Ancestry.com. U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.

          Original data: Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970. Louisville, Kentucky: National Society of the Sons of the American Revolution. Microfilm, 508 rolls.

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          National Society, Sons of the American Revolution

           

          Thank you, Eddie.

          A couple of thoughts:

          • I'm not sure that an SAR application is probative. At best it shows that the applicant's claim was accepted. But, as far as I can tell, it offers no evidence supporting that decision.
          • There seems to be no question that the parents of Davy Crockett, John Crockett (1753-1834) and Rebecca (Hawkins) Crockett (1756-1832) had a daughter, Elizabeth Crockett. But this Elizabeth Crockett (1788-1841) is not the same as Sarah Elizabeth (Crockett) Goodgame (c1780-1853).

          Am I missing something?

           

          Thanks again for taking the time to respond.

          Biography of Captain John Alexander Goodgame, Holly Springs, Ark

          · 25 April 2014 ·

          Published by "Biographical & Historical Memoirs of Southern Arkansas"; Chicago, Illinois: Goodspeed Publishing, 1890. "Capt. John A. Goodgame is a merchant, farmer, and the postmaster at Holly Springs, Ark. This wide-awake and very successful business man owes his nativity to Bibb County, Ala., where he was born in 1828, and recieved his education in the common schools. He remained at home until 1851, and then emigrated to Holly Springs, Ark., Ark., where he was married, in 1852, to Miss Permelia E. Watkins, a native of Alabama, and the daughter of Harlan and Nancy Watkins, natives of Kentucky, where they were married. Her parents afterward emigrated to Alabama, where the father died a few years later. Mrs. Watkins was married again and removed to Mississippi, thence in 1853 to Dallas County, Ark., and during the war to Texas, where she died in 1884. Mr. Goodgame's union was blessed by the birth of eight children, three sons and three daughters now living. Since his marriage Mr. Goodgame has lived in his present neighborhood on three different farms, and now has 100 acres. Since 1879, or for about ten years, he has been engaged in merchandising at Holly Springs, and for about eight years has been postmaster. During the late war he was about four years in the Confederate army, Company C, Thirty-third Arkansas Infantry, serving as lieutenant the first year, and then captain until the close of the war. He operated in Arkansas and Louisiana and fought at Prairie Grove, Mansfield, Pleasant Hill, Saline, etc. He surrendered at Marshall, Tex., in May, 1865, and returned home. He was formerly a Whig in politics, but is now a Democrat, and his first presidential vote was cast for Gen. Scott in 1852. He was a member of the temperance order of P. of H. He and his wife have been members of the Methodist Episcopal Church since 1855. His parents, James and Telitha C. (Cobb) Goodgame, were born in Georgia in 1799, and South Carolina, in 1808, respectively. They were married in Bibb County, where Mr. Goodgame died in 1884. THe mother is still living, and has been a member of the Baptist Church for many years. The paternal grandfather, John Goodgame, was born in Georgia and died in Talledega County, Ala. Mr. Goodgame was of English-Irish descent, but the ancestors were early settlers in Amaerica, and was a soldier in the Creek War. He was a farmer. The paternal grandmother of our subject, who name was Sarah E. Crockett, was a second cousin of David Crockett, ans was born in Georgia, and died in Alabama when about seventy-five years of age. She was a member of the Baptist Church. The maternal grandfather, Alexander Cobb, was born in South Carolina and died in Bibb County, Ala. He was a soldier in the war with the Indians." (Biographical and Historical Memoirs of Southern Arkansas - Goodspeed Publishing Company - Chicago, Nashville and St. Louis

          Thank you yet again.

          The above seems to suggest that William David Crockett (1709-1770) was the great grandfather of both Davy Crockett and Sarah Elizabeth (Crockett) Goodgame. I'll try to investigate this further early next week.

          Jay
          Sarah is my 4th GGM, I am a member of the DAR and my husband is a member of the SAR. I am pretty sure that neither DAR or SAR accept Sarah Elizabeth Crockett as a direct descendant of a Rev War Patriot any longer. If we ever discover who her parents were, we might be able to pursue this. However she was not the daughter of Johh B Crockett and Rebecca S Hawkins, parents of "Davy" Crockett.

          http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~goahead/

          Several years ago I contacted Joy Bland, historian for the Direct Descendants of Davy. They require DNA evidence, as well as other data, to prove direct descendancy. All of Davy's siblings have been identified and verified. Their supposition is that Sarah is probably a second cousin. Sarah tells us she was born in VA, moved to GA, then to Alabama. It does not appear that she ever lived in TN.
          Great work Frank, maybe you'll be the one to break down this wall. That would be great.

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          My husband is the 5th generation down from Sarah Crockett Goodgame.  I am trying to track down a few pictures of her or her children.  If anyone has anything I would love it.  I can send what I have as well.

          My father-in-law talked a few times of their family history conversations passed down.  With many of the generations being in war, it was interesting to hear them.
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          The DDDC - Direct Descendants & Kin of David Crockett have done extensive DNA testing, and genealogy. All of John' Crockett and Rebecca Hawkins children have been verified. Rebecca was John's first an only wife. There were only 3 daughters. Margaret Catharine, Elizabeth, Rebecca Jane.  All are accounted for and proven. I continue to work with Joy Bland, DDDC Historian, to try to track Sarah down. I and my cousins share DNA with this Crockett Family, and it proves a more distant relationship, probably 1st or 2nd cousin. You can order Crockett Cousins by Kathryn E Jones (plus and addendum) from DDDC. They have a web site.
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