Need help finding sources to confirm parents of Thomas McWaters (B. 1812, Ireland)

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This is my first foray into Irish records and I'm having some issues - hoping someone on WikiTree may be able to help!

My 4xgreat grandfather was Thomas McWaters. He was born roughly between 1811-1812 somewhere in Ireland and immigrated to Ontario, Canada sometime in the 1830s or 1840s perhaps. He died in 1871 in Ontario.

I need help in confirming his parents.

Here is what I think I know:

- Parents /may/ be James McWaters and Sarah McSpeddon/McSpeddan (This is from another family tree - I am trying to confirm/deny this.)

- He married Margaret T. Grier in the mid-1830s, though I am not sure if this was in Ireland or Canada. (His first child was born in about 1838, if that helps.)

- He died in South Dumfries, Brant County, Ontario, Canada in February of 1871.

Here is the list of 3 sources I have so far that I am sure are him:

• "Ontario Census, 1861," database, FamilySearch (
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X3FX-FR3
 : 8 November 2014), Thos Mcwaters, Dumfries South Township, Brant, Ontario, Canada; citing p. 57, line 33; Library and Archives Canada film number C-1009
& C-1010, Public Archives, Toronto; FHL microfilm 349,250.
• "Canada Census Mortality Schedules, 1871," database, FamilySearch (
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XMMN-2ZM
 : 14 November 2014), Thomas Walters, 02, South Dumfries a, North Brant 16, Ontario, Canada; citing p. 1, line 4, 02, South Dumfries a, North Brant 16,
Ontario, Canada, Public Archives, Ottawa, Ontario; FHL microfilm 4,396,290.
• "Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947," database with images, FamilySearch (
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JK7G-2JH
 : 11 December 2014), Thomas Mcwaters, 24 Feb 1871; citing South Dumfries, Brant, Ontario, Canada, p357 cn15144, Archives of Ontario, Toronto; FHL microfilm
1,846,465.

Notice in one of the Census his surname is noted as "Walters".

Any help in finding Irish records of his birth or perhaps a marriage record would be great.
WikiTree profile: Thomas McWaters
in Genealogy Help by Kristen Louca G2G6 Mach 3 (32.5k points)

1 Answer

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from Ancestry

Marriage of Thomas and Margaret https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/29459441/person/27103409714/media/6c1df6a4-bb7f-45dc-88b6-ab6b6d95d6ff

If you can't read this let me know and I'll get you the information

Father 

James McWaters

1787–1874

Birth 1787 • Ireland

Death 1874 • Stanton, Goodhue, Minnesota

sources Min. census 1857

 Mother 

Sarah McSpedden

1785–1854

Birth 1785 • New Jersey, USA

Death 3 NOV 1854 • Ontario, Canada

No sources for Sarah

 

 

by Richard Devlin G2G6 Pilot (502k points)
Is that a scan of a marriage record?

I unfortunately can't read it - if you are able to transcribe the information on it, that'd be great!

Have to wonder how to properly source that, too.
Thomas McWaters (1812-1871)

  Margaret T Grier (1819-1895)

#5905 Provence of upper Canada

(marriage)

17 May 1837

Dumfries Township, Ontario

I'll also try to put the image on Thomas's profile
Thanks!

Does the actual document indicate James McWaters and Sarah McSpeddon as his parents, or is that only on the Ancestry tree?

If the document notes his parents, that'd be a plus.
As you can see, the document is very hard to read but I don't think it has anything about the parents. I got the other info from Ancestry tree.
Yeah - that's the issue. Where did the Ancestry tree find those parent names? Hm. I probably got the potential parent names from that tree, though I was hoping to find the source where they found itt.

I tried a search on Familysearch for Ireland records, but I confess I'm not too adept at navigating Irish records.

I also don't know if I may need to search for a different name spelling - I notice if I search for McWaters on Familysearch, I get 'Waters', 'Walters', 'Waterhouse', etc., too.

This is the full list from Ancestry on James McWaters

Birth

1787 • Ireland

4 Sources0 Media

1787

(AGE)

  • Age 24 — Birth of Son Thomas McWaters(1812–1871)

    1812 • Ireland

    0 Sources0 Media

    1812

    24

  • Age 29 — Birth of Daughter Esther McWaters(1816–1911)

    23 Jul 1816 • County Down, Ireland

    0 Sources0 Media

    1816

    29

  • Age 33 — Birth of Daughter Margaret McWaters(1820–1897)

    21 Jun 1820 • Ireland

    0 Sources0 Media

    1820

    33

  • Age 40 — Birth of Daughter Sarah Ann McWaters(1828–1914)

    1828 • Ireland

    0 Sources0 Media

    1828

    40

  • View

    Age 44 — Arrival

    1831 • Ontario, Canada

    0 Sources0 Media

    1831

    44

  • Age 67 — Death of Wife Sarah McSpedden(1785–1854)

    3 Nov 1854 • Ontario, Canada

    0 Sources0 Media

    1854

    67

  • View

    Age 70 — Residence

    21 Sep 1857 • Sciota, Dakota, Minnesota, USA

    Living with Daughter Sarah Ann and her family. Twp 112, Range 19. Sciota Township.

    1 Source0 Media

    1857

    70

  • View

    Age 73 — Residence

    1860 • Sciota, Dakota, Minnesota, United States

    Living with daughter Sarah Ann and her family.

    1 Source0 Media

    1860

    73

  • Age 84 — Death of Son Thomas McWaters(1812–1871)

    27 Feb 1871 • South Dumfries, Brant, Ontario, Canada

    0 Sources0 Media

    1871

    84

  • View

    Age 87 — Death

    1874 • Stanton, Goodhue, Minnesota

    2 Sources0 Media

    1874

    87

  • Burial

  • Stanton Cemetery, Stanton, Goodhue County, Minnesota

    1 Source

  •  

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