Two ships Abigail, sailing in 1635?

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There are two categories for what seems to be the same PGM immigration ship, named Abigail, both sailing in 1635.  It looks to me that they are the same ship and should be merged, but I wanted to ask first.
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Abigail%2C_sailed_1635

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Abigail%2C_sailed_July_1635

I'm looking for the right category for Edmund Edward Freeman and family. 

WikiTree profile: Edmund Freeman
asked Jul 17, 2017 in Policy and Style by Marcel Muise G2G3 (3,610 points)
retagged Jul 17, 2017 by Ellen Smith

1 Answer

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Good observation! These sure do look like the same ship, and the same sailing of that ship. The contents can be combined into one category.

In general, I think that ship categories include the most specific sailing or arrival date available, so I think the "sailed July 1635" category would be preferred.

The lists that currently appear on the category page for the "sailed 1635" category would be more appropriate for a free-space page to supplement the category.
answered Jul 17, 2017 by Ellen Smith G2G6 Pilot (734,550 points)

I agree.  The two references seem to be the same ship.  However, the three passenger names on the second list don't seem to be present on most passenger lists for the ship.  For example, http://www.immigrantships.net/v2/1600v2/abigail16351008.html

This particular sailing of the Abigail is significant because John Winthrop (the younger) was likely aboard and supposedly arrived in Boston with an outbreak of Smallpox aboard. 

We all should keep in mind that there are often multiple ships with the same name, sailing the same routes, in the same time period. And, sometimes, the evidence isn't as clear.

 

Those three names aren't in the Hotten book, but then neither are some of the ones on the other list.

I agree they are the same, and that "sailed July 1635"  should be used. See this about removing unwanted categories

https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/405619/i-accidentally-created-a-mis-spelled-category?show=405619#q405619

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